[Mageia-dev] painful discussion n°1: debloating

Tue Apr 10 12:09:37 CEST 2012

On Tue, Apr 10, 2012 at 9:29 AM, You-Cheng Hsieh <yochenhsieh at gmail.com> wrote:
+>
+> I've made the changes of 1) and 2) locally:
+> - remove Suggests: seahorse in gnome-keyring
+> - add Suggests: seahorse in task-gnome-minimal
+
+It is pointless to "optimize" for minimal installation and then break
+usability for regular installs.
+
+Manually install of gnome-keyring not resulting in a GUI to manage the
+keys/passwords/other entries is of little use for the casual user, but
+of course it works without, as applications can access the stored
+passwords nevertheless, that's why it seahorse is a suggested package
+and not a required one.
+
+Suggests to seahorse in gnome-keyring makes perfect sense.
+
+Adding seahorse as suggests to task-gnome-*minimal* is
+counter-productive, it is not an application that is needed to run
+gnome, it is not needed to have gnome-applications store passwords and
+access them again.
+
+It is the completely wrong way to fix this in my POV.
+
+The actual fix would be to just not install suggested packages when
+minimal install is requested. Or to prompt the user so that he can
+deselect suggested packages manually. But when someone performs an
+explicit minimal installation, this for me implies he only wants the
+required stuff, and no suggests at all.
+
+ciao
+Christian
+