[Mageia-dev] regarding tainted progress

Sun May 29 16:58:53 CEST 2011

Op zondag 29 mei 2011 14:07:59 schreef Michael Scherer:
+> Le dimanche 29 mai 2011 à 12:50 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
+> > Op zondag 29 mei 2011 12:05:26 schreef Michael Scherer:
+> > > Le dimanche 29 mai 2011 à 11:52 +0200, Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
+> > > > Hi,
+> > > > 
+> > > > I've spoken with spturtle about the tainted packages rebuild of
+> > > > existing packages (ffmpeg, mplayer,...)
+> > > > 
+> > > > He mentions he did local builds of those, and is waiting on a BS
+> > > > change?
+> > > 
+> > > Everything is on the bug report
+> > > https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=338 ( that you likely could not
+> > > miss )
+> > 
+> > I suppose i should've put the link in my email...
+> > 
+> > > Personally, I think this can be fixed after with updates ( ie push
+> > > updated rpms with support for specific codecs after the release is out
+> > > ) so this should not be release critical.
+> > 
+> > I kind of disagree with you here on 2 points:
+> >  - I estimate(wild guess) that if there is even 4hours between release
+> >  and
+> > 
+> > these packages appearing, that you're already gonna have at least one
+> > person complaining about it
+> 
+> And so ? I think that I clearly articulated my point about complain in
+> the past, something about "patch or you do not exist", some ruthless
+> motto geared toward efficiency.
+
+i guess i'm not that ruthless
+
+> More precisely, how many people would complain if the release do not
+> appear in time, after having worked so hard to meet the deadline ?
+
+you have a point there, also people always complain
+
+> >  - If you say, after release is fine; then it'll likely take more than a
+> >  week
+> > 
+> > after release to have those packages on the mirrors, because at that
+> > point people will just want to "fix" the BS the correct way...
+> 
+> Technically, even before, it should be the right way. We had enough
+> issues with stuff "that will be fixed later" on Mandriva side that I
+> think we learned the lesson, like "we will clean the buildsystem later"
+> 
+> ( so it was running forked version of youri, with no spec on how it
+> work, with script auto correcting mirrors silently, etc )
+
+There's no way i can not agree with you on this.
+
+Except, i thought this was decided...
+
+In any case, spturtle seems to have everything ready and is waiting for 
+"something" or perhaps some way to put it there?
+
+I only sent this email as reminder because spturtle asked me to do so...
+