[Mageia-dev] Non-free firmwares in installer

Thu Mar 24 17:45:22 CET 2011

Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 14:24 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
+> On 24.03.2011 12:53, Michael Scherer wrote:
+> > Le jeudi 24 mars 2011 à 11:15 +0100, Thorsten van Lil a écrit :
+> >> Am 24.03.2011 09:57, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+> >>> 2011/3/24 Ahmad Samir<ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com>:
+> >>>> On 24 March 2011 02:58, Dexter Morgan<dmorganec at gmail.com>  wrote:
+> >>>>> On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 1:38 AM, Ahmad Samir<ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com>  wrote:
+> >>>>>>
+> >>>>>> Has the Free DVD in Mandriva ever contained non-free firmware?
+> >>>>>
+> >>>>> No, but the question is more , will we provide a "non free" dvd iso,
+> >>>>> and this question is i think interesting.
+> >>>>>
+> >>> A possible solution for people with such a setup could be a non-free
+> >>> "driver cd ISO" which they could include in the installation process.
+> >>>
+> >>
+> >> What about a DVD including non-free packages but has the option to not 
+> >> install them?
+> >> I think the majority of the users don't care that much about proprietary 
+> >> issues, they just need them for using there wireless card or graphic 
+> >> card. Those how do care can just uncheck the non-free part of the DVD. :)
+> > 
+> > Well, personally, then I would just continue to use Fedora or others
+> > distribution on my computers, and keep Mageia just for the servers of
+> > the project. 
+> 
+> Fedora includes non-free firmware both in repo and medias, so why prefer
+> that?
+
+I know, I likely use them for my wifi card (Atheros AR5008) and also use
+external ones for my dvb card ( aver-tv red hd+ ), and my webcam
+( iSight ). 
+
+But my issue is not about non-free firmwares and those who use them or
+not, but about the gradual move to non-free packages on the free dvd iso
+( http://netsplit.com/2006/11/27/slippery-slopes/ ).
+
+When I started at Mandrake Linux, there was no non-free repository. Then
+one day, non-free was created, and then soon, it was activated by
+default for the free version. Then I opened this bug,
+https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=40033 , who took 2 years to be
+fixed. And what I just see is yet another push to bury a little bit more
+values I care. 
+
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
+
+