[Mageia-dev] HALectomy on mageia ?

Thu Mar 17 07:56:42 CET 2011

Op donderdag 17 maart 2011 04:32:17 schreef Tux99:
+> Quote: Ahmad Samir wrote on Thu, 17 March 2011 03:28
+> 
+> > On 17 March 2011 04:08, Tux99 <tux99-mga at uridium.org> wrote:
+> > > You mean simply drop Gnome, Gimp, Gphoto, XFburn, Nut, etc. and
+> > > probably
+> > > not being able to build some other apps that aren't in the Mageia
+> > > repos
+> > > yet and might require HAL?
+> > 
+> > First of all, where did mikala say anything about "dropping right
+> > now"?
+> 
+> Mikala? Why do you mention him?
+
+Mikala is John Balcaen (original poster)
+
+> > All the apps you picked (from the Fedora page?) can probably work
+> > without hal, (e.g. I don't have haldaemon running for about 4-5 months
+> > now, and gimp works OK).
+> 
+> I didn't pick anything, I simply listed the apps that appear as
+> dependencies in Balcaen John's first post of this thread and asked if he
+> meant dropping those.
+> See here if you missed the earlier emails:
+> http://mageia.linuxtech.net/forum/index.php?t=msg&th=2540
+
+afaik he meant to drop the hal option from compiling, ie: compile without hal 
+support
+
+> > The point is, other major distros have already gone through the
+> > halsectomy phase, which means we have very rich resources to draw on.
+> 
+> True, but again IMHO this is a major structural change, which AFAIK isn't
+> supposed to happen until after Mageia 1 has been released.
+
+I kind of agree with you, but i guess this is why it's proposed here. To see 
+who supports it and who doesn't.
+
+personally, if this is as painless as mikala and ahmad think it is, i would 
+feel it would be ok, if it was proposed a month ago. Now, i don't know, afaik 
+there haven't been alot of distros yet released without hal atm. So even 
+though alot of people are behind this, for mageia 1, we do have older versions 
+of programs.
+
+I think they are wanting to see if someone can prove them that app X would be 
+missing functionality if hal support was removed from now.
+
+but imho, it needs to be tested by non-dev users before something can be 
+proclaimed.
+
+Also, i guess it means they don't want to keep supporting it. but imho, mageia 
+release 1 isn't so far off anymore and there is still alot of work to be done 
+for it. I do give my blessing to drop hal completely after release 1, though.
+