[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?

Tue Mar 15 22:50:17 CET 2011

+
+Quote: Michael Scherer wrote on Tue, 15 March 2011 21:30
+----------------------------------------------------
+> Le mardi 15 mars 2011 à 20:34 +0100, Tux99 a écrit :
+> > 
+> > Quote: Michael Scherer wrote on Tue, 15 March 2011 20:21
+> > 
+> > > Because some people do not care about patents and using tainted
+> > > stuff,
+> > > but do care about free licenses and do care about what it bring
+> > > to
+> > > them.
+> > > 
+> > > I do. Stormi do ( or seems to do ). And I think that given we
+> > > decided
+> > > to
+> > > split PLF for that precise reason, there is more than 2 of us
+> > > to care.
+> > > 
+> > > > Putting tainted packages in nonfree just causes more
+> > > > confusion
+> > > > IMHO.
+> > > 
+> > > As much as the reverse, it all depends on what you tell to
+> > > people
+> > > about
+> > > the repository, what they expect and what you prefer to
+> > > highlight. 
+> > 
+> > That's exactly why I suggested earlier in this thread that we need
+> > an
+> > additional repo for 'tainted+non-free' packages, that's the only
+> > solution
+> > that would satisfy every preference people might have and at the
+> > same time
+> > make things clear for everyone (packagers, mirror maintainers,
+> > users).
+> 
+> Instead of moving stuff in non-free, you move them in non-free +
+> tainted.
+
+Nothing is being moved, these packages aren't in any repo yet.
+
+We are trying to decide what the best possible solution is.
+
+> That just bring more headaches, and more complexity.
+> 
+> That's not a solution.
+
+Sorry but your answer is not a proper argument, it only gives me the
+impression that you are summarily dismissing anything that you personally
+don't like and after dictating how things have to be done.
+
+Benefits of creating a separate 'tainted+non-free' as I mentioned in my
+previous post:
+- clear separation of packages based on free/no-free and tainted/no-tainted
+status
+- mirror maintainers can easily exclude tainted packages if the laws of
+their country require it
+- users can easily select packages according to their beliefs
+(free/non-free) or legal concerns (patent issues)
+
+Also I thought that in the debate about whether to separate 'tainted'
+packages that was held here on this ML in the early days, the main
+argument was that it should be easy for users and mirror maintainers to
+avoid packages with patent issues if they so wish. Your decision to put
+'tainted+non-free' packages in 'non-free' completely undermines that,
+therefore I don't consider it a reasonable solution.
+
+>From a packager point of view the best decision would be to put
+'tainted+non-free' packages in 'tainted' since they are most likely to
+have dependencies in 'tainted'.
+
+If you don't want 'tainted+non-free' packages in 'tainted' then they might
+as well go in a separate 'tainted+non-free' repository, since the added
+complexity for the packager is the same regardless if they go in
+'tainted+non-free' or 'non-free'.
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