[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

Mon Feb 28 23:02:30 CET 2011

Le lundi 28 février 2011 18:21:58, Michael Scherer a écrit :
+> Le samedi 26 février 2011 à 01:00 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
+> > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 10:33:42, Michael Scherer a écrit :
+> > > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 09:19 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
+> > > > Le vendredi 25 février 2011 01:12:07, Michael Scherer a écrit :
+> > > > > What need to be taken in account too is also the case
+> > > > > Internet => 5-7 apps.
+> > > > > 
+> > > > > Having :
+> > > > > Internet => 5-7 submenus => 1 app entry
+> > > > > is IMHO clearly suboptimal.
+> > > > > 
+> > > > > ( ie, 1 step more to get application , on a total of 3, that's a
+> > > > > lot ).
+> > > > 
+> > > > Does it happen ? In a default Mandriva KDE installation I already
+> > > > have more than 10 internet applications.
+> > > 
+> > > I do not use kde, but that doesn't sound good.
+> > > What are the entries ? Are all of them really needed ?
+> > 
+> > - akregator
+> > - kaddressbook
+> > - kmail
+> > - network center (mandriva)
+> > - kbluetooth
+> > - kget (download manager)
+> > - knetattach (= add a network
+> > - knode : newsgroups reader (unless I installed it manually, not sure)
+> > - konqueror
+> > - kontact
+> > - konversation
+> > - kopete
+> > - korganizer
+> > - kppp
+> > - krdc
+> > - krfb
+> > - ktorrent (unless I installed it manually)
+> > - firefox
+> > 
+> > And I agree that many of those will not be used by most people
+> 
+> There is some duplicate :
+> firefox / konqueror
+> kontact / korganiser / kmail / kadressboo, that somehow all overlap ( IIRC
+> from my kde days ) - kppp / network center / knetattach -> manage network
+> 
+> > > > I prefer 3 quick steps rather than 2 long steps.
+> > > 
+> > > This would requires some testing and measures to see which is faster,
+> > > which is more confusing. Fcrozat did some tests, but I think the report
+> > > were not published :/
+> > > 
+> > > > And KDE gives you the
+> > > > "recently used applications" on top of the menu, so the extra step is
+> > > > no big deal.
+> > > 
+> > > Shall I remind that there is more than KDE in the world ?
+> > 
+> > No, because it suggests I forgot it, which is not the case :)
+> > But you mean there is no such functionality in GNOME and other commonly
+> > used environments ?
+> 
+> I never seen this on windows, ( which is still the most common used
+> evnironment, even if my own usage date back to xp ), neither on mac os x
+> ( on 10.5 ).
+
+Well, for windows I think you just didn't see it :)
+"Commonly used programs are automatically displayed in the left-hand menu"
+http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Start_menu#Evolution_of_the_Start_Menu
+
+I think I had that functionality already in windows 98 (but that could be a 
+false memory, I don't guarantee).
+
+Samuel
+