[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

Sat Feb 26 05:13:05 CET 2011

Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
+>
+> Le vendredi 25 février 2011 10:33:42, Michael Scherer a écrit :
+>> Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 09:19 +0100, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
+>>> Le vendredi 25 février 2011 01:12:07, Michael Scherer a écrit :
+>>>> What need to be taken in account too is also the case
+>>>> Internet =>  5-7 apps.
+>>>>
+>>>> Having :
+>>>> Internet =>  5-7 submenus =>  1 app entry
+>>>> is IMHO clearly suboptimal.
+>>>>
+>>>> ( ie, 1 step more to get application , on a total of 3, that's a lot ).
+>>>
+>>> Does it happen ? In a default Mandriva KDE installation I already have
+>>> more than 10 internet applications.
+>>
+>> I do not use kde, but that doesn't sound good.
+>> What are the entries ? Are all of them really needed ?
+>
+> - akregator
+> - kaddressbook
+> - kmail
+> - network center (mandriva)
+> - kbluetooth
+> - kget (download manager)
+> - knetattach (= add a network
+> - knode : newsgroups reader (unless I installed it manually, not sure)
+> - konqueror
+> - kontact
+> - konversation
+> - kopete
+> - korganizer
+> - kppp
+> - krdc
+> - krfb
+> - ktorrent (unless I installed it manually)
+> - firefox
+>
+> And I agree that many of those will not be used by most people
+>
+>>
+>>> I prefer 3 quick steps rather than 2 long steps.
+>>
+>> This would requires some testing and measures to see which is faster,
+>> which is more confusing. Fcrozat did some tests, but I think the report
+>> were not published :/
+>>
+>>> And KDE gives you the
+>>> "recently used applications" on top of the menu, so the extra step is no
+>>> big deal.
+>>
+>> Shall I remind that there is more than KDE in the world ?
+>
+> No, because it suggests I forgot it, which is not the case :)
+> But you mean there is no such functionality in GNOME and other commonly used
+> environments ?
+>
+> Samuel
+
+Gnome doesn't put recently used applications on top.  (Just switched to 
+test it.)
+Neither does the default Mandriva menu, which I usually use. (At least 
+not by default.)  One problem with that feature is that it can be 
+difficult to know where to look for a particular app, because it won't 
+always be in the same place.  But if there were a line separating recent 
+and others, and both groups were in alphabetical order, it would be 
+easier to find things.  But I don't if know any menu system does that.
+I don't know if Gnome uses a "Plus/More" menu, as the menu lists are 
+much shorter than the Mandriva menus.
+(Partly because much is missing from the tools menus.  But also the 
+icons are smaller, which is nice.  Unfortunately some submenus aren't 
+translated.)
+
+Mandriva menus do use a "Plus" submenu. (called that in french.)
+Previously sometimes has been used in a menu with only about 7 items, 
+but currently only appears in one menu approaching the bottom of the page.
+(The overflow menu had one item, I removed one item from the parent, and 
+the overflow menu is still there with one item.)
+
+-- 
+André
+