[Mageia-dev] freedesktop spec and categories

Fri Feb 25 01:12:07 CET 2011

Le vendredi 25 février 2011 à 00:09 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
+> On 24.02.2011 21:15, Michael Scherer wrote:
+> > Le jeudi 24 février 2011 à 20:30 +0200, Anssi Hannula a écrit :
+> >>
+> >> I have about 15-30 entries in everyone of Internet, Office, Audio/Video,
+> >> Tools, Tools->System submenus.
+> > 
+> > By submenu, you mean the "more" submenu ? I fail to understand what do
+> > you have exactly, can you provides a screenshot ?
+> 
+> No, I mean menu entries directly under those menus.
+> http://onse.fi/files/kuvat/menu1.png
+> http://onse.fi/files/kuvat/menu2.png
+> 
+> IMHO too many entries there. 
+
+We agree. Now, what ever you do, there is too much entries.
+In the end, if you have a deep hierarchy, there is still a problem
+and you will hit a limit, no matter what you do.
+
+> With two levels I think at least the number
+> of entries/submenus directly under the Internet menu would be
+> significantly reduced.
+
+Likely.
+Then I misunderstood you when ou told "keep the current system".
+
+> >> With a two-level system it would be considerably less and closer to the
+> >> ~7 you mention.
+> > 
+> > Depend, what is the process that you are wanting to improve ?
+> > ( and closer is not good enough, even if 15 is nearer to 7 than 20,
+> > that's still too much and a different process is used ( according to
+> > studies ))
+> 
+> No idea. IMO finding the wanted application is faster when it goes
+> Internet => 5-7 submenus => each with 2-5 app entries
+> instead of the current
+> Internet => 20 app entries, plus 10 more in "More"
+
+Yes. But I think that what some people want is 
+Internet => 30 apps.
+( ie, suppress More )
+
+Citing tux99 : 
+
+"I'm pretty sure that if we make a survey among Mandriva users the
+majority will be saying they don't like apps hidden behind "More" as it
+currently happens, they would want them  in the higher level with all
+the other apps of the same type."
+
+So maybe I misunderstood. 
+
+What need to be taken in account too is also the case 
+Internet => 5-7 apps. 
+
+Having :
+Internet => 5-7 submenus => 1 app entry 
+is IMHO clearly suboptimal.
+
+( ie, 1 step more to get application , on a total of 3, that's a lot ).
+
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
+
+