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[Mageia-dev] importing spec-helper [build-system progress]

+ Maarten Vanraes + maarten.vanraes at gmail.com +
+ Thu Jan 20 00:56:51 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Op woensdag 19 januari 2011 23:33:10 schreef Olivier Blin:
+> Maarten Vanraes <maarten.vanraes at gmail.com> writes:
+> > except, is spec-helper one of the patches ones too?
+> > 
+> > Buildrequires will have to be changed to perl(IPC::Run3) instead of
+> > perl(IPC::Run), so my question is:
+> > 
+> > Do i patch this to run with IPC::Run3 ? or is this to be forked?
+> 
+> Why can't you keep IPC::Run ?
+
+it looks to me that perl-IPC-Run3 is built for mga and perl-IPC-Run isn't? or 
+am i mistaken?
+
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[Mageia-dev] importing spec-helper [build-system progress]

+ Olivier Blin + mageia at blino.org +
+ Thu Jan 20 01:02:01 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Maarten Vanraes <maarten.vanraes at gmail.com> writes:
+
+> Op woensdag 19 januari 2011 23:33:10 schreef Olivier Blin:
+>> Maarten Vanraes <maarten.vanraes at gmail.com> writes:
+>> > except, is spec-helper one of the patches ones too?
+>> > 
+>> > Buildrequires will have to be changed to perl(IPC::Run3) instead of
+>> > perl(IPC::Run), so my question is:
+>> > 
+>> > Do i patch this to run with IPC::Run3 ? or is this to be forked?
+>> 
+>> Why can't you keep IPC::Run ?
+>
+> it looks to me that perl-IPC-Run3 is built for mga and perl-IPC-Run isn't? or 
+> am i mistaken?
+
+Then you can just build perl-IPC-Run for Mageia
+
+-- 
+Olivier Blin - blino
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-dev] background and theme path

+ J.A. Magallón + jamagallon at ono.com +
+ Thu Jan 20 01:59:29 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
On Wed, 19 Jan 2011 13:53:08 +0100, Remy CLOUARD <shikamaru at mandriva.org> wrote:
+
+> On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 01:06:49PM +0100, Olivier Blin wrote:
+> > Hi,
+> > 
+> > I'd like to move away from the hardcoded backgrounds location for
+> > themes, and put them in a distro-neutral path
+> > (was /usr/share/mdk/backgrounds/ in Mandriva)
+> > 
+> > Most Gnome backgrounds appear to be located in
+> > /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/ (some are in /usr/share/backgrounds/)
+> > 
+> > Is everyone ok to have our backgrounds in
+> > /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/<theme name>/ and the distro default as
+> > /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/default.jpg ?
+> > 
+> > Thanks
+> Well, I’d say it would be better if it were also desktop-neutral.
+> 
+> AFAIK, there is one freedesktop specification for icons [1], but not for
+> wallpapers, it would be nice to raise this subject on fd.o ml.
+> 
+> I don’t know which package owns /usr/share/pixmaps/backgrounds/, but
+> apparently it’s not desktop-common-data. I would rather not having to
+> install gnome packages/kde packages for that.
+> 
+> Regards,
+> 
+> [1] http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Specifications/icon-theme-spec
+
+Some ideas:
+
+- pixmap != background/wallpaper, so better /usr/share/{backgrounds,wallpapers}
+- as probably in a future will also exist shared sounds, videos or other
+  things, and as there is no XDG standard, why not group everything in something
+  like /usr/share/media/{wallpaper,image,audio,video} ?
+
+
+-- 
+J.A. Magallon <jamagallon()ono!com>     \               Software is like sex:
+                                         \         It's better when it's free
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-dev] 19/01/2011 meeting

+ Angelo Naselli + anaselli at linux.it +
+ Thu Jan 20 09:09:19 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
mercoledì 19 gennaio 2011 alle 11:09, Anne nicolas ha scritto:
+> Hi there
+> 
+> Next meeting will happen tonigh on #mageia-dev at 20h UTC.
+> 
+> Here are our topics:
+> 
+> - Review of build system and distro bootstrap
+> - Proposal for mentoring process (wiki page will be updated today):
+> review and comments
+> - Review on current mentoring  process and people concerned
+> - Review on policies import
+> 
+> As usual feel free to propose any other topic provided our meeting
+> stay in human timetable :). It would be great to have a short one this
+> time and keep something longer for next one as it will be last
+> wednesday of january.
+> 
+> Cheers
+> 
+> 
+For those who were not present:
+http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-dev/2011/mageia-dev.2011-01-19-20.01.html
+
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[Mageia-dev] Proposal for Mageia: implement bitorrent protocol to allow updates download

+ andre999 + andr55 at laposte.net +
+ Thu Jan 20 10:57:23 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Olivier Thauvin a écrit :
+> * andre999 (andr55 at laposte.net) wrote:
+>> Motoko-chan a écrit :
+>> Many mirror sites do restrict multiple connexions (per user), so
+>> evidently it is readily done.  If a mirror chooses not to make such
+>> restrictions, that is their choice.  It is not good form (to put it
+>> mildly) for some mirrors to try to dictate mirror policy for other
+>> mirrors, which could have different interests.
+>> Limiting the connexion speed could be an easy way to ensure that usually
+>> everyone who wishes to connect can do so in busy times.  In less busy
+>> times, multiple connexions to such mirrors causes no problem.
+>
+> It seems you didn't understood my previous replies, or not read them, or
+> you're just ignoring them (maybe you're doing all of this together).
+>
+> How can you say "multiple connexions to such mirrors causes no problem"
+> whereas I am trying to explain you it causes problems.
+
+I understood what you said.  I just disagree.
+To summerize the essence of my previous posts, if a mirror decides to 
+allow multiple connexions, apparently they have no problems with that, 
+as they could readily deny such connexions.
+So how to you think that you have the right to deny their decision to 
+allow multiple connexions on _their_ site ?
+If you have a problem with multiple connexions on _your_ site, you have 
+every right -- and probably should -- restrict such access to your site, 
+in whatever way you wish.  And on-one has the right to dictate to you 
+how to run your site.
+Hopefully my point is now clear.
+
+Regards :)
+
+-- 
+André
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] On importing /soft

+ Anssi Hannula + anssi.hannula at iki.fi +
+ Thu Jan 20 16:57:06 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
On 19.01.2011 22:32, Pascal Terjan wrote:
+> http://svn.mageia.org/soft-cleaning/status.html#monitor-edid
+> says "- README: Some reference to the Mandriva mailing list and
+> bugzilla will need to be changed to Mageia ones"
+> 
+> Do we really want to?
+> What is the point?
+> I think we can package this tool as-is, as a tool provided by Mandriva
+> like if we were packaging a non distro specific tool developed by
+> RedHat or Debian or anyone and let people report their bugs upstream
+> if the README says so.
+> 
+> If someday it becomes unmaintained or for any other reason, we can
+> fork it, but currently I think of it as an external tool and see no
+> reason in importing it into our svn
+> 
+> I did not read the full list but I guess there are other standalone
+> tools that we don't need to fork into our svn.
+> 
+> Opinions?
+
++1 for no-fork for now.
+
+-- 
+Anssi Hannula
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-dev] Python Packaging Policy

+ philippe makowski + makowski.mageia at gmail.com +
+ Thu Jan 20 19:11:01 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
about http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Python_packaging_policy
+and pyc/pyo policy and the problem of bigger packages
+
+I made a test that seems not bad with :
+
+%python_compile_opt
+%python_compile
+install *.pyc *.pyo %{buildroot}%{py_platsitedir}/%{name}
+%fdupes %{buildroot}%{py_platsitedir}/%{name}
+
+
+with
+%define fdupes(s) \
+ _target=""; \
+ _symlinks=0; \
+ %{-s:_symlinks=1;} \
+ fdupes -q -n -r %1 | \
+  while read _file; do \
+    if test -z "$_target" ; then \
+      _target="$_file"; \
+    else \
+      if test -z "$_file" ; then \
+        _target=""; \
+        continue ; \
+      fi ; \
+      if test "$_symlinks" = 1; then \
+        ln -sf "${_target#%{buildroot}}" "$_file"; \
+      else \
+        ln -f "$_target" "$_file"; \
+      fi ;\
+    fi ; \
+ done \
+%{nil}
+
+in fact as said in this bugzilla entry under Fedora
+(https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=617039),
+ %fdupes can be usefull not only for Python
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] Java-Policy first draft published

+ Farfouille + farfouille64 at laposte.net +
+ Thu Jan 20 20:22:13 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Le 11/01/2011 08:07, Farfouille a écrit :
+> 
+> Le 10/01/2011 23:45, Renaud MICHEL a écrit :
+>>
+>> On lundi 10 janvier 2011 at 21:02, Farfouille wrote :
+>> I suppose this page is meant to replace
+>> http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=java_policy
+> Yes
+I've updated the policy table http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=policies-review
+with the policy discussed in this thread to avoid confusion.
+
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-dev] Java-Policy first draft published

+ Farfouille + farfouille64 at laposte.net +
+ Thu Jan 20 20:37:23 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Le 11/01/2011 12:27, Michael Scherer a écrit :
+> 
+> Le mardi 11 janvier 2011 à 08:17 +0100, Farfouille a écrit :
+>> Le 11/01/2011 00:00, Michael Scherer a écrit :
+>>>
+>>> Le lundi 10 janvier 2011 à 21:02 +0100, Farfouille a écrit :
+>>>
+>>> The part about Requires should IMHO be pushed in rpm dependency solver .
+>> Apologize for maybe a noob question (btw I'm a noob packager waiting for his turn to be trained ;) )
+>> but what do you mean by 'rpm dependency solver' ? 
+>> Is is a tool to resolve dependencies at user installation time ?
+>> A simple link to some kind of explaination will be a perfect answer.
+> 
+> It is a script that add requires on build.
+> For example, each time there is a python script, rpm notice it and add
+> the requires on python.
+> 
+> See /usr/lib/rpm/find-requires and /usr/lib/rpm/mandriva/find-requires
+>
+I didn't find anything that deals with java dependencies in these directories. So I think the policy should be kept unchanged for this point.
+>>>
+>>> I am not sure for the requires on jpackages-utils, could we explain what
+>>> it bring ?
+>> I'll dig on that during my launch break
+AFAIU jpackes-utils brings a directory structures and tools to manage JREs. It is required by packaged applications that, at least run on top of JRE (openjdk and sun-java)
+but as it is also a dependency of, at least, openjdk rpm (didn't check for sun-java nor gcj) it may be removed for java application policy. Can someone confirm this ?
+>>>
+
+ + + + +
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[Mageia-dev] Packaging for Mageia

+ Erwan Velu + erwanaliasr1 at gmail.com +
+ Thu Jan 20 21:33:14 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
Hey fellows,
+
+I'm shooting this short mail to thank you for your work on the packaging
+stuff.
+It's really easy to import our packages & push them to the build system.
+
+That's pretty straightforward to use and efficient.
+
+Thanks you guys,
+
+Erwan
+
+PS: just pray not to fall into the jquelin massive submits :D
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] Java-Policy first draft published

+ Michael scherer + misc at zarb.org +
+ Thu Jan 20 22:42:56 CET 2011 +

+
+ +
On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 08:37:23PM +0100, Farfouille wrote:
+> Le 11/01/2011 12:27, Michael Scherer a écrit :
+> > 
+> > Le mardi 11 janvier 2011 à 08:17 +0100, Farfouille a écrit :
+> >> Le 11/01/2011 00:00, Michael Scherer a écrit :
+> >>>
+> >>> Le lundi 10 janvier 2011 à 21:02 +0100, Farfouille a écrit :
+> >>>
+> >>> The part about Requires should IMHO be pushed in rpm dependency solver .
+> >> Apologize for maybe a noob question (btw I'm a noob packager waiting for his turn to be trained ;) )
+> >> but what do you mean by 'rpm dependency solver' ? 
+> >> Is is a tool to resolve dependencies at user installation time ?
+> >> A simple link to some kind of explaination will be a perfect answer.
+> > 
+> > It is a script that add requires on build.
+> > For example, each time there is a python script, rpm notice it and add
+> > the requires on python.
+> > 
+> > See /usr/lib/rpm/find-requires and /usr/lib/rpm/mandriva/find-requires
+> >
+> I didn't find anything that deals with java dependencies in these directories. So I think the policy should be kept unchanged for this point.
+
+Well, my point is that it should added to this script, rather
+that being done manually by policy.
+
+So yes, while there is nothing, we keep it, but it should be trivial
+to add and then adapt the policy.
+
+> >>>
+> >>> I am not sure for the requires on jpackages-utils, could we explain what
+> >>> it bring ?
+> >> I'll dig on that during my launch break
+> AFAIU jpackes-utils brings a directory structures and tools to manage JREs. It is required by packaged applications that, at least run on top of JRE (openjdk and sun-java)
+> but as it is also a dependency of, at least, openjdk rpm (didn't check for sun-java nor gcj) it may be removed for java application policy. Can someone confirm this ?
+
+Well, as I am advocating to have 1 and only 1 supported jvm to start ( because having more
+just add complexity and insanity, and there is already enough work to do ), maybe the directory 
+structure should be pushed into the jvm.
+( now, i guess that the move to have 1 single jvm will be seen as extremely controversial , I know ).
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
+
+ + +
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