[Mageia-dev] Opening backports (was Re: [Mageia-sysadm] Using SQL database for youri)

Fri Sep 30 23:35:40 CEST 2011

Le jeudi 29 septembre 2011 21:10:42, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
+> Le jeudi 29 septembre 2011 20:55:43, Florian Hubold a écrit :
+> > Am 29.09.2011 14:13, schrieb Olav Vitters:
+> > > On Thu, Sep 29, 2011 at 10:24:56AM +0200, Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+> > >> backports_testing, but it means that we would lose the current
+> > >> checking that updates come from the 1/updates branch)
+> > > 
+> > > Long term I prefer more checks because I do make mistakes. But maybe
+> > > lax as a temporary ("a few weeks") solution until it uses the SQL
+> > > database?
+> > 
+> > Well, is it really that necessary for a matter of some weeks to speed up
+> > backports opening? Shouldn't we care first that sustainability of Mageia
+> > is ensured first?
+> > 
+> > It's not like backports candidates will lessen workload on QA, rather the
+> > opposite. That's my personal opinion.
+> 
+> Some genuine user needs can only be covered by backports per our policy, I
+> don't see why we should wait more (already 4 months since the release of
+> Mageia 1). QA team already said it's ready to test backports, and if we
+> have difficulty we simply will find means to get more testers. Also,
+> updates will still remain the priority.
+> 
+> Opening backports media does not mean that we will start backporting
+> everything. But a policy has been chosen, after a loooooooooong debate, and
+> there seems to be a simple way to open those media to package submitting.
+> 
+> Also, the sooner we have backports, the less there will be external third-
+> party repos with all the problems (upgrade, support) that causes. There
+> already are, don't let them too much space and rather invite their
+> packagers to backport *inside* (as long as they stay within the policy of
+> course).
+> 
+> About Mageia's sustainability, we already are working to that (QA team is
+> operational, package adoption campaign is undergoing...), and having
+> backports media won't prevent us from continuing.
+> 
+> Also, the "few weeks" is a really vague estimation, my guess is it risks to
+> be rather months because sysadmins seem to have a big TODO list a little
+> resources. That's why I'm proposing 2 "technically simple" ways to move
+> forward.
+> 
+> Best regards
+> 
+> Samuel Verschelde
+
+If needed, the tremendous amount of packages in Blogdrake's 3rd party media 
+shows how much backports are needed by users, whatever we as packagers can 
+think of it.
+
+I'm still convinced that opening backports right now, using one of my 2 
+proposals (if I haven't overlooked a technical difficulty), would be an 
+important step forward for us.
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel
+