[Mageia-dev] MANDATORY READ : 7 days before misc unleashes CERBERUS!

Fri Sep 16 19:20:56 CEST 2011

>16.09.2011 13:44, Guillaume Rousse :
+>/>  This whole idea of 'touch a package, become its maintainer' assumes
+/>/>  than anyone modifying a package has an obvious interest in it.
+/>/>  However, they are case when you have rebuild a package just in order
+/>/>  to accomodate for changes you made somewhere else. For instance,
+/>/>  rebuilding all packages linked against a given library after updating
+/>/>  this last one to a new version...
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+*>Sander Lepik*    replied/Fri Sep 16 12:53:05/
+*>
+*>Well, if you don't need those other packages then you just skip
+>rebuilding them to see if anyone needs them. If not then we don't have a
+>problem, they will be dropped :/ If anyone sees that this breaks some
+>functionality in his/her packages then (s)he needs to rebuild them and
+>will become maintainer.
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+*>Michael Scherer*      /Fri Sep 16 15:39:00/
+
+>Someone upgrading a package either :
+>- is interested in it for the package ( and thus would be a maintainer )
+>- is interested into having it upgraded for using on another package
+>( and thus, as a user of the rpm for another rpm, has a interest to not
+>make it disappear ).
+
+
+Hey men what consequences will you expect !!!
+
+If you need an example :
+
+Funda Wang has done a huge work (not yet finished) to upgrade libpng in Mageia.
+He rebuilt at least hundred source packages to be coherent (and closed bug reports
+of people crying about some programs segfaulting since libpng was upgraded)
+While doing this, he upgraded several packages for which updated sources exist...
+While doing this he could resolve several other bugs (giving quick answers to
+personal messages I sent to him...)
+If you mean he must be the maintainer of the whole lot, he never will do such a work
+(Perhaps may I not to speak for him...)
+
+Just have a look in mandriva cooker mailing list to see what kind of problem occurs with
+new libpng .... (they seem overwhelmed by 500 rpms to rebuild...)
+
+No, indeed ! upgrading a package doesn't mean you're interested in (some people are interested
+in a package but not able to... thanks to the ones replying to their needs)
+
+No, beeing interested into having a package upgraded for using on another package
+( and thus, as a user of the rpm for another rpm, has a interest to not
+make it disappear ) doesn't mean you let others do what they need to use their packages
+depending on the one you modified...
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+I use hugin : I'm not able to submit a new version of it
+I'm not able to submit a new version of libpng (used by hugin)
+I'm not able to rebuild hugin with the new libpng
+(quite not true : I did it for my own use some time ago, but I may not propose my work to a whole
+community, )
+If ever I was able to upgrade libpng and rebuilt hugin, I wouldn't let people assume
+the consequences of my upgrading libpng ...
+
+I thank people doing the job (even if they are not the maintainer)
+  I'm perhaps a little more optimist, thinking that volunteers will catch the bugs even if they
+are not the official maintainer.
+But I'm afraid that declaring that a bug catcher becomes a package maintainer will prevent anyone to get so
+engaged... and let the number of bugs increase !
+
+My two drachmas
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