[Mageia-dev] Meeting tonight

Wed Sep 14 21:53:53 CEST 2011

Le mercredi 14 septembre 2011 20:45:03, Michael Scherer a écrit :
+> Le mercredi 14 septembre 2011 à 17:50 +0200, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
+> > Le mercredi 14 septembre 2011 16:46:19, Michael scherer a écrit :
+> > > Hi,
+> > > 
+> > > so tonight, meeting time ( packager, bug triager, QA, and all
+> > > are invited, and there will be free food in the fridge ( not
+> > > mine, but yours, of course )).
+> > > 
+> > > Planning :
+> > > - security updates ( ennael || misc )
+> > > - maintainers assignation ( misc )
+> > > - apprentice ( andre )
+> > > 
+> > > And that would be IMHO enough for this evening ( short, etc )
+> > 
+> > I don't know if it's the right meeting for it, but I would like us to
+> > talk again about bug 2317 https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2317
+> > that blocks updates
+> > We tried to previously chosen solution "link from Release to Updates",
+> > but we run into dependency nightmares such as in the end the solution
+> > would almost lead to copy the whole Release media into Updates.
+> > 
+> > Without proof of the contrary, I tend to think that fixing MageiaUpdate
+> > would be a lot less work than the workaround we are trying to use which
+> > : - still needs work from the sysadmins
+> > - gives a lot of work to QA, that would be better used for testing the
+> > updates - forces us to link a lot of packages if we really want to make
+> > sure the update never fails
+> > 
+> > What I would like is a firm and courageous decision (we already talked a
+> > lot of this issue without much progress until now) that we set a date
+> > (soon) before which this problem will be completely solved, whatever the
+> > way.
+> > 
+> > We really would like to have this issue solved and allow to concentrate
+> > on other important stuff (such as security updates for example).
+> 
+> If no one does the patch, nothing will move. And I doubt that telling
+> "do the patch" would make it appear, but I can try :
+> Samuel, can you produce a fix for the 18th september ?
+
+Well, I thought we have a couple people capable of tweaking urpmi's code very 
+very better than me, but yes, I can try to move earth and heavens, ask for 
+help because I don't know urpmi and MageiaUpdate's code at all, and try to 
+make sure the problem is fixed soon. I'll say "the problem must be fixed before 
+the 18th of september, please help me doing it right or you risk having me do 
+it" 
+
+Or I could trick someone into becoming the maintainer and tell him/her to fix 
+the bug per the packager team leaders' will
+
+I think you underestimate the power of a decision. Once a decision has been 
+taken, then your "minions" can stop chatting and move together towards the 
+goal. The objective is clear, the the saying "when there's a will there's a 
+way" is often really true.
+
+So, who can help me ? tv ? blino ? pterjan ?
+
+Best regards
+
+Samuel Verschelde
+