[Mageia-dev] RPM features/issues/wishlist

Fri Oct 14 19:14:17 CEST 2011

2011/10/14 Florian Hubold <doktor5000 at arcor.de>:
+> Am 14.10.2011 16:19, schrieb Per Øyvind Karlsen:
+>>
+>> I've started to ramble on some of the features, issues, ideas etc. to
+>> work on and consider
+>> for our (Mandriva Linux) next development cycle, and in the interest
+>> of sharing work and
+>> coordinating efforts with others, while inviting others to contribute:
+>> http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Development/Tasks/Packaging/Tools/RPM/TODO
+>>
+>> While it's certainly written from a vendor POV (and also rather crude
+>> for the moment), I'm cross-posting
+>> this one as it's of potential interest to others as well and the idea
+>> is for things to be as generic as
+>> possible anyhows.. :)
+>>
+>> So I invite others with the interest to contribute to the discussion
+>> on the list and wiki, proposing
+>> ideas, gather a list of issues that needs to be addressed, and do some
+>> general brainstorming
+>> and uhm.. "stuff". ;)
+>>
+>> --
+>> Regards,
+>> Per Øyvind
+>>
+> I'm curious, following whole RPM5 "discussions" over the last months/year
+> on Cooker and also from my humble and polite POV  some rather disappointing
+> threads/answers about RPM5. Also i somehow feel sorry for jbj as he only
+> offered his help for free and what he had to take from some people :(
+>
+> What would be maybe interesting to many people actually interested in RPM5,
+> is what does it actually bring to the table for the end users? So far ACAICT
+> from what i have observed it adds supports for ACID
+> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACID>. On the other side
+> it seems quite a bit slower in some cases, means much work for you as
+> one of the implementers and a whole lot of work for maintainers just
+> to keep the packages working as they did before. Yeah, there are some
+> added benefits like notice/removal od some dependency loops but
+> this is not something which is useful for the end user directly IMHO.
+>
+> So actually my main question is: What main advantages does RPM5
+> bring and for what costs?
+Ihk, my intentions was minsinterpreted in the wrong way, with both good and
+negative response.. :p
+
+I'm not advocating RPM5 here at all and need to stress again that I'm trying to
+collect ideas, issues people feel like should be addressed, or
+anything else people
+would throw in a potential TODO list for rpm in general (ignoring the
+whole fork politics
+issue) in the world of distros (initially) based on Mandriva (they're
+still more similar to
+each other than to any other distros).
+
+I've answered various questions regarding rpm5 in the past, while
+always pointing
+out that I'm not really advocating it, but merely answering peoples'
+questions, yet
+always been labelled as the-bad-guy-who-tries-to-force-rpm5-on-mageia, so for
+obvious reasons I won't go down that road again.. ;)
+
+There's been several responses answering this question in various
+aspects on cooker
+list in the past though, maybe I should collect some of them and write
+up an article on
+my blog or something about why the choice of it in rpm5 later or
+something to give some
+better overview of the situation and work put into it. (I still feel
+like pointing out that
+ACID didn't have that much to do with the adoption of it in Mandriva though)
+But it's still off-topic for this thread (and seemingly for this list
+as well;)..
+
+--
+Regards,
+Per Øyvind
+