[Mageia-dev] Teamviewer and X86_64 build . . .

Tue Nov 29 14:17:42 CET 2011

Robert Fox skrev 29.11.2011 13:24:
+> On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 12:20 +0100, nicolas vigier wrote:
+>> You are free to try to help teamviewer fix their package to make it work
+>> on Mageia, you can already do it now, there's no need to have a voting
+>> system to consider it.
+>>
+>
+> Sorry Nicolas - I would if I knew how, but unfortunately I am not a
+> packager nor am I a developer with intimate knowledge of Mageia - I am
+> simply a power user who enjoys testing the latest (cauldron) and giving
+> feedback.
+>
+
+Ah... and there it is...
+
+This is how most threads like this ends up...
+
+Many users seems to forget this is a community driven distribution,
+so if you want something no-one of the current maintainers care
+about, you need to do the work, and stop expecting others to do
+it for you (unless you pay them)...
+
+
+So here is a few general points for all users to think about:
+
+* "I am not a packager"
+   - so what stops you from becoming one?
+   - everyone have had to start somewhere.
+   - we have packagers that takes on apprentices,
+     and you can always ask questions on mageia-dev@ ml
+     and #mageia-dev on irc if you get stuck.
+
+* "I am not a developer"
+   - for many packages you dont need to be a "developer" as
+     upstream is doing the development, so you only need to
+     be a packager and check if things are fixed upstream
+     and so on.
+
+* "I dont have time..."
+   - then how can you expect others to use their own time
+     to do it for you if they dont care about the thing you
+     want...
+
+
+Point is... our "nobody" maintainer is already overworked
+with over 2000 packages to take care of. So he/she does not
+want more work.
+
+
+And thinking about skype/teamviewer/...
+If we want to help...
+
+They dont need to be packaged. Just start a page on the
+wiki listing apps, where to get them, how to install them,
+and so on...
+Note! This page needs to be _maintained_ then too :)
+Otherwise people can just google it.
+
+--
+Thomas
+