[Mageia-dev] Teamviewer and X86_64 build . . .

Tue Nov 29 10:44:24 CET 2011

On Tue, 2011-11-29 at 10:14 +0100, Oliver Burger wrote:
+> Am Dienstag, 29. November 2011, 10:07:16 schrieb Robert Fox:
+> > We are not proposing that such packages be included in the ISOs - just
+> > available in a repository which we can trust and know that it works . .
+> And that's the problem. As misc pointed out, we can't really trust proprietary 
+> stuff. No one has any control on the contents of those programms.
+> And thus we cannot guarantee, that it works. If we add such a package now, it 
+> might work now, but what happens, if we change any library or whatever?
+> And since it's not OpenSource, we can't fix it, if it's broken.
+> 
+> And to be honest: What is so complicated about installing skype, teamviewer or 
+> whatever proprietary crap from the vendor's homepage?
+> Oh sure, it might force you to read a bit about what you are doing :/
+> 
+> Oliver
+
+I agree with you that Mageia can't guarantee that such proprietary
+software will function - or that it may break with future library
+changes.  I am also not asking Mageia to trust third party, proprietary
+software.  All I am asking is that Mageia recognise the need for the end
+users to co-exist with their Mac / Winblows counterparts, and that
+certain software is unavoidable.  Any efforts made to help get such
+software to work properly with our distribution would be considered
+positive.  We shouldn't have to guarantee ANYTHING, just make a
+concerted effort to get such software to play nice with our distro!
+
+If you watch what the "other" major distros are doing related to this
+topic - it may give a hint.  I am NOT advocating that we have to be like
+them, I believe we need to offer the ability and the choice.
+
+As far as forcing someone to "read a bit" - some apps are more difficult
+than others to install - and the install methods are sometimes
+dramatically different (from tarball or from RPM or SRPM, etc).  This is
+not always for the faint at heart.  I personally have no problem in
+trying to install it myself, and research over the internet whether
+someone else has figured it out already - but one of the main reasons I
+stuck with Mandriva (and now Mageia) is that I always had a high chance
+of finding a working RPM or instructions how to get it to work under the
+distro.
+
+enough said . . . I will crawl back into my cave.
+
+Thx,
+R.Fox
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