[Mageia-dev] Teamviewer and X86_64 build . . .

Tue Nov 29 10:07:16 CET 2011

On Mon, 2011-11-28 at 21:10 +0100, Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+> Op maandag 28 november 2011 14:40:34 schreef Michael Scherer:
+> [...]
+> > There is several pragmatic reasons for that and, there is also some long
+> > term harm by shipping more and more proprietary software like :
+> [...]
+> > Personally, I aim for better stuff than fragile unsustainable hacks like
+> > this. And we should not start to settle on lower standards, especially
+> > if forced to us by non cooperative company or group. One could be
+> > tolerable. Two, likely. More, that's starting to generalize, and that's
+> > just sending the wrong signal to the whole community, and saying to
+> > company "it is ok to treat us like parias". It is hard to be credible
+> > when saying "we want to provides a solid system" and in the same time,
+> > do the contrary.
+> > 
+> > I doubt we will be able to bring real long term credibility and a
+> > reputation for quality if we go this way. People can just compare Ubuntu
+> > reputation to Debian one, and see which one was able to survive without
+> > spending million of dollars each year. And also which one serve as a
+> > base for the other.
+> 
+> You touch some interesting points here, and I appreciate you here explaining 
+> your personal opinion, I'm beginning to see more clearly your reasoning in the 
+> past, and my own reasoning. I believe i may have to review my own pov here...
+> 
+> +1
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+I also see some of the valid points, but bottom line - is that Mageia
+should help create working packages for the bigger ticket items (like
+Skype) - in a cooperative spirit.  
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+We are not proposing that such packages be included in the ISOs - just
+available in a repository which we can trust and know that it works . . 
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+That's all we ask for . . 
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+Cheers,
+R.Fox
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