From 1be510f9529cb082f802408b472a77d074b394c0 Mon Sep 17 00:00:00 2001 From: Nicolas Vigier <boklm@mageia.org> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2013 13:46:12 +0000 Subject: Add zarb MLs html archives --- zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2011-November/009854.html | 129 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++ 1 file changed, 129 insertions(+) create mode 100644 zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2011-November/009854.html (limited to 'zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2011-November/009854.html') diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2011-November/009854.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2011-November/009854.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..b06f62a8a --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-dev/2011-November/009854.html @@ -0,0 +1,129 @@ +<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN"> +<HTML> + <HEAD> + <TITLE> [Mageia-dev] ffmpeg in mageia1 updates testing (revision 171164) + </TITLE> + <LINK REL="Index" HREF="index.html" > + <LINK REL="made" HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20ffmpeg%20in%20mageia1%20updates%20testing%20%28revision%20171164%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4ED10030.8090707%40mageia.org%3E"> + <META NAME="robots" CONTENT="index,nofollow"> + <META http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"> + <LINK REL="Previous" HREF="009850.html"> + <LINK REL="Next" HREF="009792.html"> + </HEAD> + <BODY BGCOLOR="#ffffff"> + <H1>[Mageia-dev] ffmpeg in mageia1 updates testing (revision 171164)</H1> + <B>Anssi Hannula</B> + <A HREF="mailto:mageia-dev%40mageia.org?Subject=Re%3A%20%5BMageia-dev%5D%20ffmpeg%20in%20mageia1%20updates%20testing%20%28revision%20171164%29&In-Reply-To=%3C4ED10030.8090707%40mageia.org%3E" + TITLE="[Mageia-dev] ffmpeg in mageia1 updates testing (revision 171164)">anssi at mageia.org + </A><BR> + <I>Sat Nov 26 16:05:20 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009850.html">[Mageia-dev] ffmpeg in mageia1 updates testing (revision 171164) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009792.html">[Mageia-dev] [Bug 3431] ffmpeg security update to version 0.7.8 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9854">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9854">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9854">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9854">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + <HR> +<!--beginarticle--> +<PRE>On 26.11.2011 16:47, Thomas Backlund wrote: +><i> 26.11.2011 16:15, Anssi Hannula skrev: +</I>>><i> On 26.11.2011 09:54, zezinho wrote: +</I>>>><i> Le samedi 26 novembre 2011 02:31:43, Anssi Hannula a écrit : +</I>>>>><i> About 75% of the crash issues fixed by the above 0.7 commits affect +</I>>>>><i> mga1 +</I>>>>><i> 0.6.x, with a sample size of 70 commits. +</I>>>><i> +</I>>>><i> So maybe we should consider ffmpeg as Firefox : a software we must +</I>>>><i> upgrade +</I>>>><i> because upstream fixes security only in latest version. +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> Unfortunately FFmpeg is much less 'stable' than firefox in both its +</I>>><i> dependencies and API across different series. Meaning that upgrade of +</I>>><i> FFmpeg often requires upgrade of libx264 (like in 0.6->0.7), or requires +</I>>><i> changes in software that uses FFmpeg (0.6->0.7 doesn't, however). +</I>>><i> +</I>>><i> The "easy" way out in this case could be upgrading FFmpeg 0.6->0.7 and +</I>>><i> x264 and doing extensive Q&A to avoid breakage. The "hard" way is +</I>>><i> backporting the ~200 relevant patches (most of which don't apply +</I>>><i> automatically). +</I>>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> And you dont think upgrading to a new ffmpeg will bring new bugs and +</I>><i> need for new fixes... +</I> +Hence the quotes around "easy" and "hard". + +><i> We dont even have BR about those bugs in our bugzilla, so apparently +</I>><i> they are not that important or not easy to hit. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The real easy way is: just apply the 5 security fixes and be done with it. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> <A HREF="https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Updates_policy">https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Updates_policy</A> +</I>><i> "For the most part, an update should consist of a patched build of the +</I>><i> same version of the package released with the distribution" +</I>><i> +</I>><i> +</I>><i> If we start the "look at upstream, there are X number of fixes not in +</I>><i> our package", where does it end ?? +</I>><i> +</I>><i> We will soon have to do it for every package, and that is Cauldron or a +</I>><i> rolling release, not really a stable release. +</I> +Obviously only security fixes are relevant. + +><i> And we dont have the manpower in QA to start a updating frenzy like this. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> The point is simple: software _always_ have bugs. Thats a fact. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> upgrading from one version to another does not only "fix bugs", +</I>><i> it's also "replacing old bugs" with "new ones" +</I> +(BTW, I wasn't advocating upgrading FFmpeg 0.6->0.7, though admittedly +my post was badly worded so it might've looked like I was) + +-- +Anssi Hannula +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="009850.html">[Mageia-dev] ffmpeg in mageia1 updates testing (revision 171164) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="009792.html">[Mageia-dev] [Bug 3431] ffmpeg security update to version 0.7.8 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#9854">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#9854">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#9854">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#9854">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev">More information about the Mageia-dev +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> -- cgit v1.2.1