[Mageia-dev] Updating a new install is too long...

Sun Nov 6 12:38:24 CET 2011

2011/11/6 Maarten Vanraes <alien at rmail.be>:
+> Op zondag 06 november 2011 10:19:59 schreef Wolfgang Bornath:
+> [...]
+>> We are talking about 2 different things here:
+>>
+>> 1. An "update release", meaning a installation DVD with current status.
+>> The benefit for new installations is the current state of a stable
+>> release. The downside: the installation only holds part of the
+>> software. Many (or even most) users will install additional packages
+>> from the repos after installation. This will not change, and people
+>> who want to update their existing system will still need to get
+>> updates for all installed packages which are not on the installation
+>> DVD.
+>
+> I don't think this is feasible, too much QA required.
+>
+> What we could do instead, is having the installer install the updates
+> directly, instead of afterwards, this would mean that the installation time
+> drops. the big disadvantage of this is the amount downloaded packages, but
+> that's where point 2 comes in, IF we allow this sort of thing in the
+> installer.
+
+The problem is that many wifi connections are not working at this time
+(experienced this myself several times on different machines). So this
+is only an option for cable connected machines.
+It may be an option if you have such a DVD I was talking about in
+point 2 - somewhere at the start of the install process you can add an
+additional medium. If a newer package is on the update DVD (or USB key
+or external harddisk) the installer should take this instead of the
+package from the installer DVD) should work with an update DVD or USB
+key. It will not reduce the download but the overall system setup time
+(as you wrote).
+Of course, if you have networking at that time, you could use a server
+with an update repo (especially in a multi-machine environment)
+
+>> 2. A DVD with updates
+>> This DVD may present a benefit for people with small bandwidth or in
+>> case of a multiple machine environment. Although, in such a case I'd
+>> prefer a local repository with nightly sync. A DVD with all updates is
+>> only a snapshot of one moment in the release's life, part of it may be
+>> outdated next day or week. So, 2 weeks later we have the same
+>> questions as today. I don't think that Mageia should offer this, not
+>> talking about the fact that everybody can do this (at the time which
+>> suits himself) without much knowledge.
+>>
+>> A DVD with updates is a nice idea for a local community where somebody
+>> has enough bandwidth to host a local repo (or even mirror) and can
+>> hand out update snapshots on request for people with small bandwidth..
+>
+> Ah, i see your point, you mean that this could be done on-demand. yes, that's
+> good enough for me, no need to do this from mageia itself.
+
+Of course we could provide guidelines / help / documentation for this
+case to make it an easy job for your average Joe.
+
+-- 
+wobo
+