[Mageia-dev] mentors + apprentices

Wed Nov 2 15:50:37 CET 2011

Hi,
+
+I want to join the team, actually I already made contact by IRC channel.
+But I'm still looking for a mentor.
+I've never had experience as a packager just had in a little free software
+projects.
+My mageia identity is: mbenattoa. If somebody wants help me on mentoring
+process I'll be very glad!
+
+Thanks.
+
+On Wed, Nov 2, 2011 at 9:00 AM, <mageia-dev-request at mageia.org> wrote:
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+>   1. Re: [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release
+>      perl-SOAP-Lite-0.714.0-1.mga2 (D.Morgan)
+>   2. Re: Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing
+>      (Johnny A. Solbu)
+>   3. Re: Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing (andre999)
+>   4.  mentors + apprentices (andre999)
+>   5. i18n corrections in drak tools (Oliver Burger)
+>
+>
+> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
+>
+> Message: 1
+> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 01:40:07 +0100
+> From: "D.Morgan" <dmorganec at gmail.com>
+> To: Mageia development mailing-list <mageia-dev at mageia.org>
+> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] [changelog] [RPM] cauldron core/release
+>        perl-SOAP-Lite-0.714.0-1.mga2
+> Message-ID:
+>        <CAL+dqvDutg406MXZVTzaAsyYeO2JXQpbprQHjrpx9CXp=vbRmw at mail.gmail.com
+> >
+> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
+>
+> On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 9:02 AM, Thierry Vignaud
+> <thierry.vignaud at gmail.com> wrote:
+> > On 27 October 2011 17:11, Mageia Team <buildsystem-daemon at mageia.org>
+> wrote:
+> >> takashi <takashi> 0.714.0-1.mga2:
+> >> + Revision: 158214
+> >> - update to 0.714
+> >
+> > A requested package cannot be installed:
+> > perl-SOAP-Lite-0.714.0-1.mga2.noarch (due to unsatisfied
+> > perl(SOAP::Transport::FTP)[>= 0.712.0])
+> > Continue installation anyway? (Y/n)
+> >
+>
+> still broken.
+>
+> The main issue is that i don't see  perl(SOAP::Transport::FTP)[>=
+> 0.712.0]) see : http://search.cpan.org/dist/SOAP-Transport-FTP/
+>
+>
+> ------------------------------
+>
+> Message: 2
+> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 03:49:02 +0100
+> From: "Johnny A. Solbu" <cooker at solbu.net>
+> To: mageia-dev at mageia.org
+> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in
+>        updates_testing
+> Message-ID: <201111020349.05223.cooker at solbu.net>
+> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
+>
+> On Wednesday 02 November 2011 01:05, andre999 wrote:
+> > No offense intended
+>
+> None detected. ;-)=
+>
+> > but you don't see a slight advantage of not having
+> > to mount a separate partition, and of sharing the space available on the
+> > otherwise 2 separate partitions, particularly if the disk space is
+> > somewhat limited ?
+>
+> If the diskspace is limited, there often is no available space to host a
+> separate /usr.
+> The old drive in my gateway was a 4G drive. There was One partition. ;-)=
+> I do see the need to have all in one partition in many cases.
+>
+> But there is a diffenrece in having a need and require it. :-)=
+>
+> > Since you have read the reference, you didn't notice that the option of
+> > separate partitions is _not_ precluded ?
+>
+> Some of the answers I got here suggested otherwize. if /usr needs to be
+> mounted in order for the system to boot normally. Then have systemd mount
+> it.
+> I do see that there might be some problems involved in solving it.
+>
+> > However if one has / and /usr on the same partition, combining /bin,
+> > /sbin, /usr/bin and /usr/sbin would certainly be a lot simpler than it
+> > is now.
+>
+> Yes. I see that, and I see that it can be agood idea to merge /*bin with
+> /usr/*bin
+>
+> > I never could understand why the complication of separate /bin and /sbin,
+>
+> I still feel that the daemon's executeable's belongs in sbin rather than
+> bin.
+>
+> > and never appreciated the gymnastics of different commands with
+> > the same name to handle root/non-root permissions for certain commands.
+>
+> I haven't noticed that. do you have an example?
+>
+> > To me, avoiding unnecessary complication by design is a big plus.
+>
+> Agreed. But don't throw the baby out with the water. ;-)=
+>
+> --
+> Johnny A. Solbu
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+> ------------------------------
+>
+> Message: 3
+> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 02:47:21 -0400
+> From: andre999 <andre999mga at laposte.net>
+> To: Mageia development mailing-list <mageia-dev at mageia.org>
+> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in
+>        updates_testing
+> Message-ID: <4EB0E779.5020101 at laposte.net>
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+>
+> Johnny A. Solbu a ?crit :
+> > On Wednesday 02 November 2011 01:05, andre999 wrote:
+> >
+> [...]
+> >> Since you have read the reference, you didn't notice that the option of
+> >> separate partitions is _not_ precluded ?
+> >>
+> > Some of the answers I got here suggested otherwize. if /usr needs to be
+> mounted in order for the system to boot normally. Then have systemd mount
+> it.
+> > I do see that there might be some problems involved in solving it.
+> >
+>
+> I think it is better to mount any separate /usr as early in the boot
+> process as possible.
+>
+> [...]
+> >> and never appreciated the gymnastics of different commands with
+> >> the same name to handle root/non-root permissions for certain commands.
+> >>
+> > I haven't noticed that. do you have an example?
+> >
+>
+> See the attached file of duplications of names on my computer.
+> There are 76 duplications in the 4 directories.
+> Those ending in @ are symbolic links.  Such duplications will disappear
+> with the merging.
+> The others are mostly (if not all) scripts which link to a routine which
+> asks for the root password for certain commands, according to enabled
+> permissions.  If the permissions are enabled and the password correctly
+> entered, the user is rerouted to the initial command.  A less obscure
+> way of dealing with it would be better.
+> (I forget the details, but someone like tv or misc would know.)
+>
+> >> To me, avoiding unnecessary complication by design is a big plus.
+> >>
+> > Agreed. But don't throw the baby out with the water. ;-)=
+> >
+>
+> If just changing initramfs to load any separate /usr partition will fix
+> it, I don't see that we are losing anything.
+> Although if someone like tmb can initially misunderstand the impact, I
+> guess anyone can.  (It took me a while.)
+>
+> Maybe it will be more trouble to make such an initramfs, but once it is
+> made, it should work nicely.  Without a special reason to have a
+> separate /usr, I would say that it is better to avoid it.
+> I see that ensuring that everything necessary to fully boot being
+> guaranteed to be available very early in the boot process is a big plus.
+> If /home isn't available, one can always login to root.  As well,
+> keeping /home on a separate partition has advantages for ensuring the
+> persistance of personal data and configuration in the event of
+> reformatting /.
+>
+> --
+> Andr?
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+>
+> Message: 4
+> Date: Wed, 02 Nov 2011 03:54:38 -0400
+> From: andre999 <andre999mga at laposte.net>
+> To: Mageia development mailing-list <mageia-dev at mageia.org>
+> Subject: [Mageia-dev]  mentors + apprentices
+> Message-ID: <4EB0F73E.9060108 at laposte.net>
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+>
+> Hi everyone,
+>
+> We have a new packager, takashi, who has successfully mentored with
+> jquelin.
+>
+> We now have 2 apprentice candidates with .rpm packaging experience,
+> waiting for
+> a mentor.
+>
+> mcb30 (Michael Brown), who I introduced last week,
+> is a longtime Mandrake/Mandriva and now Mageia user who has maintained
+> several
+> private RPM repos, and while waiting for a mentor has been making spec
+> files
+> for some python applications.
+>
+> We also have
+> neocrust (Alexander Scherbakov),
+> who has experience maintaining packages for openSuse and Lunar Linux, as
+> well
+> as translating to Russion, and doing documentation with the Gentoo Russion
+> team.
+>
+> You can find more details at:
+>
+> http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#packager_apprentice_candidates
+>
+> Mentors, let me know who you take on, and I'll update the tables for you.
+>
+> Thanks :-)
+>
+> ----
+>
+> We now have 49 active packagers (maintaining at least one package), with
+> several who have yet to take a package.
+> We currently have about 40 apprentices.
+> Over 75% of packages have a maintainer.
+>
+> ----
+>
+> Anyone else looking for a mentor, let me know so I can add your name as an
+> apprentice candidate -- or you can do it yourself.
+>
+> http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#packager_apprentice_candidates
+>
+>
+> See also the section just above, on becoming a Mageia packager :
+>
+> http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=packages_mentoring#becoming_a_mageia_packager
+>
+> To find a mentor, you can also post to this list, or on IRC at freenode
+> #mageia-mentoring.
+>
+> Regards :-)
+>
+> --
+> Andr?
+> (Packager mentoring program coordinator)
+>
+>
+>
+> ------------------------------
+>
+> Message: 5
+> Date: Wed, 2 Nov 2011 09:45:10 +0100
+> From: Oliver Burger <oliver.bgr at googlemail.com>
+> To: mageia-dev at mageia.org
+> Subject: [Mageia-dev] i18n corrections in drak tools
+> Message-ID: <201111020945.10325.oliver.bgr at googlemail.com>
+> Content-Type: Text/Plain;  charset="us-ascii"
+>
+> Hi there,
+>
+> I'd like to get all corrections made by i18n teams since the Mga1 release
+> into
+> the distribution. Imho that is important because not all teams managed to
+> finish their translation work for the Mga1 freeze, and we were told at that
+> time, that we would be able to get our work into Mga1 via an update later
+> on
+> and thus I told the teams to set a priority on the translation of the
+> installer po files, which couldn't be updated later.
+>
+>
+> As I mentioned in https://bugs.mageia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1784 I would
+> propose
+> a "i18n bug hunting day". We could do a blog post calling people to
+> actively
+> look for translation errors and file bug reports about them. I18n teams
+> could
+> then fix as many of those as possible and commit the corrections to the "1"
+> branch of the drak tools svn (and also to cauldron if they are still
+> present
+> there).
+>
+> What do you think?
+> Let's say "i18n bug hunting day" somewhen in the middle of next week and an
+> update of the drak tools for Mga1 arround december 1st?
+>
+> Oliver
+>
+>
+> End of Mageia-dev Digest, Vol 15, Issue 5
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+>
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+
+-- 
+Marco Antonio Benatto
+Linux user ID: #506236
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