[Mageia-dev] Please test: initscripts+systemd in updates_testing

Wed Nov 2 07:47:21 CET 2011

Johnny A. Solbu a écrit :
+> On Wednesday 02 November 2011 01:05, andre999 wrote:
+>    
+[...]
+>> Since you have read the reference, you didn't notice that the option of
+>> separate partitions is _not_ precluded ?
+>>      
+> Some of the answers I got here suggested otherwize. if /usr needs to be mounted in order for the system to boot normally. Then have systemd mount it.
+> I do see that there might be some problems involved in solving it.
+>    
+
+I think it is better to mount any separate /usr as early in the boot 
+process as possible.
+
+[...]
+>> and never appreciated the gymnastics of different commands with
+>> the same name to handle root/non-root permissions for certain commands.
+>>      
+> I haven't noticed that. do you have an example?
+>    
+
+See the attached file of duplications of names on my computer.
+There are 76 duplications in the 4 directories.
+Those ending in @ are symbolic links.  Such duplications will disappear 
+with the merging.
+The others are mostly (if not all) scripts which link to a routine which 
+asks for the root password for certain commands, according to enabled 
+permissions.  If the permissions are enabled and the password correctly 
+entered, the user is rerouted to the initial command.  A less obscure 
+way of dealing with it would be better.
+(I forget the details, but someone like tv or misc would know.)
+
+>> To me, avoiding unnecessary complication by design is a big plus.
+>>      
+> Agreed. But don't throw the baby out with the water. ;-)=
+>    
+
+If just changing initramfs to load any separate /usr partition will fix 
+it, I don't see that we are losing anything.
+Although if someone like tmb can initially misunderstand the impact, I 
+guess anyone can.  (It took me a while.)
+
+Maybe it will be more trouble to make such an initramfs, but once it is 
+made, it should work nicely.  Without a special reason to have a 
+separate /usr, I would say that it is better to avoid it.
+I see that ensuring that everything necessary to fully boot being 
+guaranteed to be available very early in the boot process is a big plus.
+If /home isn't available, one can always login to root.  As well, 
+keeping /home on a separate partition has advantages for ensuring the 
+persistance of personal data and configuration in the event of 
+reformatting /.
+
+-- 
+André
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