[Mageia-dev] Release cycles proposals, and discussion

Tue Jun 14 09:25:30 CEST 2011

Am 14.06.2011 08:48, schrieb Oliver Burger:
+> Thorsten van Lil <tvl83 at gmx.de> schrieb am 14.06.2011
+>  > An Upgrade is nearly the same, than reinstalling. The difference is
+>  > only, that you can use your system in the mean time and you are
+>  > not forced to install the missing packages.
+>
+> And you keep all your precious settings and databases and webroots and...
+>
+> And of couse the software you did unstall outside of the package
+> management (proprietary stuff,...).
+>
+>
+> And a bit to the argument of having to install loads of software at the
+> same time: When some basic libraries are upgraded, loads of software
+> have to be rebuilt against them, so with the rolling aproach you will
+> just get that massive upgrades more often, so where is the bonus in it?
+
+For sure. No matter what release model you want to take, if you want an 
+up to date system, you have to update (if this is your counter 
+argument). But it's a different if I have to update everything (~3GB) at 
+once or if I have to update ~100MB in a week. And it's a difference if I 
+have to wait for the software 1/2 year or just a month (if I only want 
+to use official supported repos).
+
+> If people want to have their software more up to date, use backports
+
+Backports aren't supposed to be for the averaged user and shouldn't be 
+used to bring the half of your system up to date. We could rework the 
+backports and than officially support them (wouldn't this solve also the 
+issue with new packages in mga1?). But than we have almost 2 different 
+release models. I'm not sure this is what we want.
+
+Well, Oliver. You are a packager. I'm not. Our menpower is the 
+restriction in the whole discussion. If it isn't, we could provide every 
+thoughtable release model and cycle and everyone would be happy. But 
+that's not the case. So, if a proposal is unworkably please tell us, as 
+well as your other concerns.
+
+In my first post I tried to summarize all advantages and disadvantages 
+of the different release models. Did I miss a point, than please add it. 
+And I'm also fine with a static release model, but I think such a light 
+rolling can have a lot of advantages.
+
+Thorsten
+