[Mageia-dev] Missing packages in Mageia 1. How to backport?

Sat Jun 11 13:14:29 CEST 2011

Le samedi 11 juin 2011 12:06:55, Christiaan Welvaart a écrit :
+> On Fri, 10 Jun 2011, Michael Scherer wrote:
+> > We can agree that everybody want something newer for some rpms, but few
+> > people want everything to be newer ( ie, now one run backports as a
+> > update media, I think ). So as much as I am against asking to users
+> > questions, we must show them the choice somewhere, in a non obstrusive
+> > way.
+> 
+> Maybe, but how would be "support" this? We must be able to reproduce a
+> reported problem. This becomes complicated when we don't know what is
+> installed on the user's system. A guideline for bug reporters is (or
+> should be) "make sure you installed the latest updates". What would be the
+> equivalent for backports? I'm afraid it should be "if you installed any
+> backports, make sure you installed all backports that are relevant for
+> your system". If someone has a problem with any other combination, the bug
+> report might be rejected. How would QA even work when only selected
+> packages are upgraded from backports, or integration testing:
+> integration with what?
+> 
+> So the only combinations we can support are:
+>    - release + updates
+>    - release + updates + backports
+> 
+> More practical: for mga1 I have a VM that I can keep updated. For mga1
+> backports I can install another VM with backports enabled. But for bugs
+> reported with only selected backports installed I suppose I would have to
+> install a new VM with mga1, update it, and install only those backports -
+> for each bug report. But maybe I'm missing something, please explain. (:
+> 
+
+If we suppose that either updates or backports are supported (with a support 
+level to be defined), the situation is simpler to me :  a good backport must 
+work  with all its dependencies coming from updates or release OR it must 
+explicitly require higher versions, found only in the backports media and so 
+automatically pulled.
+
+So I don't think that having picked up only certain backported packages is a 
+problem for the maintainer's support. Maybe I over-simplified the situation, 
+but I don't think it will be as complex as you say.
+
+Samuel 
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