[Mageia-dev] kernel 3.0 is a big mistake in cauldron

Sat Jul 16 22:51:54 CEST 2011

'Twas brillig, and Radu-Cristian FOTESCU at 16/07/11 20:28 did gyre and
+gimble:
+> 6. "If it ain't broken, don't fix it." Countless examples (y compris KDE4,
+> GNOME3, but I'n not going into this), I'll just say SysV
+> init/systemd/upstart/whatnot -- I'm not even interested in this crap. It is
+> crap for me because:
+> i. Booting time is irrelevant for servers, they're 99.99999% up.
+> ii. Only stupid desktop users would shutdown when hybernation
+> (suspend-to-disk) is available.
+> iii. Gaining 10 seconds in boot time is not worthing, if the price is a
+> disruptive redesign of the _entire_ init process, with tons of downstream
+> work for everyone.
+
+The above statement clearly says "I've only read one feature of systemd"
+ and that you don't care about the actual, genuine design reasons for
+providing a *much* more robust system for system administrators and
+things like upgrading and restarting network services without loosing
+ANY connections.
+
+Tracking and controlling the spawned processes adds much greater security.
+
+Booting is only one aspect, and as a sysadmin, I very much appreciate
+the additional control I get with a systemd system. It is very relevant
+to me in circumstances where boot time is of minor importance.
+
+I can't say I'm surprised that you're jumping to conclusions again and
+making up your own reason and justifications as this is exactly how
+you've behaved on this list thus far.
+
+Col
+
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