[Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put non-free+tainted RPMs?

Thu Jul 14 12:25:40 CEST 2011

2011/7/14 blind Pete <0123peter at gmail.com>:
+> on Wed, 13 Jul 2011 02:04
+> in the Usenet newsgroup gmane.linux.mageia.devel
+> Ernest N. Wilcox Jr. wrote:
+>
+>>> Date: Tue, 12 Jul 2011 11:16:24 +0200
+>>> From: Wolfgang Bornath <molch.b at googlemail.com>
+>>> To: Mageia development mailing-list <mageia-dev-
+> odJJhXpcy38dnm+yROfE0A at public.gmane.org>
+>>> Subject: Re: [Mageia-dev] Repository question: where do we put
+>>>         non-free+tainted RPMs?
+>> Message-ID:
+>>         <CA+h4nj6KtYu8vUFcZ4mWUO08J5ZyxB5XnN2bsSLoqm8R7w6E=w at mail.gmail.com>
+>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
+>>>
+>>> 2011/7/12 andre999 <andr55 at laposte.net>:
+>>> > Wolfgang Bornath a ?crit :
+>>> >>
+>>> >> 2011/7/9 andre999<andr55 at laposte.net>:
+>>> >>>
+>>> >>> Wolfgang Bornath a ?crit :
+>>> >>>>
+>>> >>>> 2011/7/8 Thorsten van Lil<tvl83 at gmx.de>:
+>>> >>>>>
+>>> >>>>> Am 08.07.2011 10:42, schrieb Wolfgang Bornath:
+>>> >>>>>>
+>>> >>>>>> 2011/7/8 James Kerr<jim-
+> t9WuiTNHXmZ/pmDbDnXM4b3SaDeIAXZp0Fzj8UutsXo at public.gmane.org>:
+>>> >>>>>>>
+>>> >>>>>>> This thread has strayed far from the original question, > which
+>> could
+>>> >>>>>>> be
+>>> >>>>>>> re-stated as:
+>>> >>>>>>>
+>>> >>>>>>> Should tainted free software and tainted nonfree software be
+>>> >>>>>>> commingled
+>>> >>>>>>> in a
+>>> >>>>>>> single tainted repository?
+>>
+>> ...
+>>
+>>> >> Besides, tainted is not only about patents, it's also about software
+>>> >> which is illegal in certain countries (like libdvdcss).
+>>> >
+>>> > Ok, a relatively limited application.
+>>> >
+>>> > So in all, maybe a handful of packages at most should be in tainted.
+>>> > So why do we have more than 150 ?
+>>
+>>> Sorry, but I do not understand your way of thinking. If a law exists
+>>> it exists. It does not matter to a law whether it is likely to be
+>>> enforced. Period.
+>>> This is not paranoia, it is a matter of mind set. If robbery would not
+>>> be prosecuted, would you go out and earn your doe by taking away
+>>> handbags from old ladies? You would not, because it is wrong. For
+>>> those who are living in countries where patents are valid and accepted
+>>> by the law, using a patented software is wrong. So you must accept
+>>> that there are people who would not do it. Telling them how they
+>>> should think about it is not ours. That's why we have the tainted
+>>> repo.
+>>>
+>>> --
+>>> wobo
+>>
+>> +1
+>>
+>> I live in the USA, and while I do not personally support the concept of
+>> software pantents, I also do not want to violate them as long as they are
+>> leagally recognized where I live.
+>>
+>> For me, this is not a matter of risk, but one of ethics, morality, and
+>> respect. IMHO, the fact that my Countries Society recognizes patents as being
+>> legally binding makes it my responsibility to honor them, so I want to know if
+>> a software package may be affected by one or more patent(s) before I install it
+>> on my computer. If  I know that (for example) package foo is affected by a
+>> patent, I can search for the patent holder, and make contact to request
+>> permission to ust the software, then abide with their response. This way, I
+>> fulfill my obligation to ask permission before using software that is (or may
+>> be) affected by some one elses property. I would no more use patented software
+>> without permission here in the USA than I would take my neighbor's lawnmower
+>> to cut my grass without his permission.
+>
+> Does that lawnmower have wheels on it?  The wheel has been patented.
+> <www.ipmenu.com/archive/AUI_2001100012.pdf>
+>
+> I do not live in the USA.  I am not a lawyer.
+>
+> If you are interested, I can give you some background about why I
+> laugh at some patents.
+
+Everybody here laughs at software patents (more or less). That's not the issue.
+
+-- 
+wobo
+