[Mageia-dev] Mageia educational - part 2

Sat Jul 9 00:42:39 CEST 2011

Angelo Naselli a écrit :
+> Hi folks,
+> thanks to mamming we've improved our wiki page [1].
+> It's always work in progress of course, new project entries
+> and movement from to be packaged to package are
+> always welcome :D
+>
+> Let's talk about what to do now, two main steps are:
+>
+> * add missing educational programs
+> * group educational programs in specialized meta-packages
+>
+> For the first step every packagers, or padawans are welcome.
+> stblack, pasmatt (matteo) and I will start working asap.
+>
+> Latter instead is a little bit complex, in that page there
+> are projects like monodevelop, blander... that are not
+> easy to group in.
+>
+> IMO we could have three starting meta-packages at the moment
+> focused on students age -maybe on their related teacher as
+> well- something like:
+> pre-school<6 y.o.
+> primary-school   6-10 y.o
+> secondary-school 10-14 y.o
+>
+> I can't see how to group for people over (high school?)
+> since in Italy for instance we have different kind of
+> school addresses e.g. technical in computer science, in chemical, etc...
+
+In North America, your "high school" would be called "middle school", which has 
+more or less disappeared.
+primary is about 6-12 y
+secondary is about 13-18 y
+the range 10-14 y remains transitional, in terms of curriculum, however.
+Smarter kids near the end of primary would be more interested in secondary 
+level (and the inverse, I would imagine).
+Maybe it would be better to designate by anticipated age range ?
+In any case, there should be a lot of overlap.
+(Just because someone turns 15 they won't suddenly loose interest in what they 
+used before.)
+
+> Then another issue could be the desktop, or better, installing things
+> either for qt or gtk for instance.
+
+I might be mistaken, but wouldn't most of such apps be more or less 
+desktop-agnostic ?
+If not, we should give alternatives -- a Gnome user probably wouldn't want to 
+install half of KDE for one package, and the equivalent would apply to KDE 
+users.  And of course other desktops.
+
+> And is it right to install more than one project doing similar things?
+
+Why not ?  It gives a choice, which I think encourages a positive attitude 
+toward the use of computers as a tool in their life.
+As long as we don't try to insist that they can't uninstall something they're 
+not interested in.
+
+> Should we/Are we able to decide which is the "best" to be included in the
+> meta-package?
+
+We could make suggestions, but it seems difficult to decide what.  There is 
+such variation of interest and ability among the young (like everyone else), 
+that it seems even more difficult to decide "the" best.
+
+For those of high school level and above, it might be an idea to have meta 
+packages focused on the domaine of interert, such "natural sciences" or "social 
+sciences", etc.
+
+> What do you think about this subject?
+
+It might be an idea to have a base meta package which includes LibreOffice, 
+internet tools, and other apps good for all age groups interested in education ?
+
+> Cheers,
+> 	Angelo
+>
+> [1] http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=sigedu
+
+Regards
+-- 
+André
+