[Mageia-dev] gstreamer packaging too split?

Wed Jul 6 19:53:08 CEST 2011

2011/7/6 Ahmad Samir <ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com>:
+> On 6 July 2011 15:09, Christiaan Welvaart <cjw at daneel.dyndns.org> wrote:
+>> On Wed, 6 Jul 2011, Colin Guthrie wrote:
+>>
+>>> Yeah it is a bit of a grab-bag of stuff, but again, should we still just
+>>> bundle everything together anyway and sod the extra disk space needed?
+>>> It would be a lot simpler for users ("oh you need $foo? sure, just
+>>> installed -ugly/-bad") which is advise they can get direct from upstream
+>>> without having to know our particular packaging quirks.
+>>>
+>>> As someone who does upstream support for other projects, it's a pain to
+>>> put caveats in all your advice for distros you don't know.
+>>>
+>>> That said, the trade off may be too much, hence the canvassing of
+>>> opinions here :)
+>>
+>> I think there are only 2 solutions:
+>> - Add a meta package, e.g. gstreamer-codecs-all that can be used to make
+>>  sure all available codecs are installed. Some people complain about
+>>  "bad" and "ugly" so using those names more is not a good idea.
+>
+> But that's how upstream calls them, hiding them won't work, since
+> they're too popular already.
+>
+> FWIW, there's gstreamer0.10-decoders, a meta package in mdv (not
+> imported yet in Mageia).
+>
+>> - Use the packagekit gstreamer plugin, so players install the correct
+>>  plugins on demand.
+>>
+>
+> ATM it doesn't work, the urpmi backend needs some love..
+I've already given it the tender, love & care required already:
+https://gitorious.org/+rpm5distro/packagekit/rpm5distro-packagekit
+
+I *think* the backend itself should be working (ie. 'pkcon what-provides'
+behaves as expected), but when testing it with ie. totem, it'll fail installing.
+
+I kinda assumed I was the one to blame, but after discussing with packagekit
+upstream devs, they suspected it rather was kpackagekit in cooker that might
+be to blame for it's failure as the urpmi backend seemed to be okay..
+
+I was just starting to poke around with gnome-packagekit before leaving the
+office today, so I haven't verified it to work with it, but perhaps
+some of you'll
+beat me to it before I get into work tomorrow..? :)
+
+Note: I've implemented several other features & filters missing from the backend
+as well while at it, and I cannot guarantee that I haven't broken anything with
+older urpmi/URPM versions (I've tried not to and even fixed my code later on
+where I've realized doign so), so lemme know if anything breaks for ya..
+(Of course, it would be *way* easier to coordinate any slightest change or what
+not with someone remotely interested in communicating)
+
+--
+Regards,
+Per Øyvind
+