[Mageia-dev] proposal regarding (packager) mentoring program coordinator

Tue Jul 5 02:47:31 CEST 2011

Michael Scherer a écrit :
+> Le lundi 04 juillet 2011 à 09:37 +0200, Daniel Kreuter a écrit :
+>> On 07/04/2011 08:28 AM, andre999 wrote:
+>
+>>> We had the name packager-mentoring at ... in mind.
+>>> So could we have packager-mentoring at ml.mageia.org ?
+>>>
+>>> Thanks :)
+>>
+>> The ML could also be good as direct input for people who like to
+>> contribute as packager.
+>>
+>> As you said in your mail before, the mageia-dev or mageia-discuss ML's
+>> are very polulated, so the chances of overreading a mail of someone new
+>> could happen very easy.
+>
+> what do you mean by "overreading" ?
+>
+>> Having a dedicated ML just for that as entry point for new guys, we can
+>> abandon that problem and we won't miss someone.
+>
+> You would still miss people who post on -dev, forums or irc. So for the
+> mentoring team, this mean just more work or at least, it cannot be less
+> work.
+
+It shouldn't be more work, just that package mentoring request are more likely 
+to be more quickly responded to.
+
+> For mentors and people interested in mentoring, that doesn't bring much
+> either ( ie, they have to read -dev anyway ).
+
+True, for mentors.
+Unless it is also used for the mentoring process itself, in which case a higher 
+priority could be given to the mentoring list.
+Actually, such a list might facilitate the mentoring process, since it wouldn't 
+be tied to being on line at the same time, as is IRC.  And also apprentices 
+could read previous mentoring questions and answers.
+But of course, a mailing list can't give the advantages of the real-time 
+response of IRC.
+
+> And that's the same for people interested in packaging, this just mean 2
+> lists to follow instead of one ( cause if the goal is to do packages,
+> not subscribing to -dev is out of question IMHO ).
+
+I do agree that everyone subscribing to a mentoring list should also subscribe 
+to -dev.  (I would say likely also to -discuss, as well.)
+But the 2 lists would have a different focus.  The -mentoring list would have 
+more immediate importance to apprentices, and probably/possibly to mentors as well.
+
+> So I do not see how yet another list would really help :/
+
+I had the idea of a contact point that packager mentoring requests could be 
+directed to, where everyone working with the coordinator could easily monitor. 
+  Assuming that messages to this contact point could be put it a separate 
+folder, it would make it easier to ensure that such requests are not lost in 
+the noise.
+If the coordinator is temporarily unavailable (vacation, etc) and doesn't have 
+Internet access (which for me would likely coincide), others working with the 
+coordinator could monitor the contact point to ensure a better response.
+Maybe that is overkill, since we do now have the packages_mentoring page 
+adapted for those wanting to become packagers.  But actively assisting 
+potential mentors making contact is advantageous.
+
+But if a new such mailing list were also used for the mentoring process itself, 
+that would not detract from it being a useful contact point, so maybe that 
+would work.
+
+I'm not trying to insist on it, but at least it seems like something we should 
+consider :)
+
+-- 
+André
+