[Mageia-dev] proposal regarding (packager) mentoring program coordinator

Sun Jul 3 18:11:36 CEST 2011

Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
+> Le samedi 2 juillet 2011 03:02:24, andre999 a écrit :
+>> Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
+>>> Le samedi 2 juillet 2011 01:07:00, Samuel Verschelde a écrit :
+>>>> Le vendredi 1 juillet 2011 22:49:29, andre999 a écrit :
+>>>>> nicolas vigier a écrit :
+>>>>>> On Fri, 01 Jul 2011, andre999 wrote:
+>> [...]
+>>
+>>>>>>> Would something like coord at pmentoring.mageia.org be Ok ?
+>>>>>>
+>>>>>> No, foo at group.mageia.org with foo replaced by the group name.
+>>>>>>
+>>>>>>> Presumably I would manage the group, which would include at least
+>>>>>>> magnus + Daniel. So who should I talk to about setting it up ?
+>>>>>>> Would I be able to add new persons myself, or would I have to request
+>>>>>>> it ?
+>>>>>>
+>>>>>> What would be the use of this group and alias ?
+>>>>>> Shouldn't most discussions be public, so on a mailing list ?
+>>>>>
+>>>>> This would be for potential packager apprentices or others to easily
+>>>>> contact all members the mentoring coordinator team.
+>>>>> So one of us can respond quickly, mostly to update our
+>>>>> packages_mentoring wiki page.  (Which will be ready in the next few
+>>>>> days.)
+>>>>> We could also use it to discuss among ourselves, which we now do by
+>>>>> private email. So it wouldn't be of general interest.  We wouldn't want
+>>>>> those outside our group responding to messages received, like in a
+>>>>> public mailing list.
+>>>>> (The group might include a few outside our team.)
+>>>>> (It could include mentors, but they will see useful info on our wiki
+>>>>> page.) A restricted-access mailing list should work.
+>>>>
+>>>> I don't think there's a need for restricted access, and it would be
+>>>> opposite to the way we try to do everything in the open.
+>>>>
+>>>> What you need is
+>>>> 1) a way to be contacted directly by those who need (apprentices)
+>>>> 2) a way to discuss within members of the team, but maybe other people
+>>>> too if some want to join the discussion
+>>>>
+>>>> For 1), I think your @mageia.org address once you will get one is
+>>>> sufficient. It's only one means of communication among others (MLs,
+>>>> forums, wiki), so I don't think a group is necessarily needed for that.
+>>>> You can still forward requests you can't handle yourself.
+>>>
+>>> That being said, I have nothing against the use of a group for that, but
+>>> only as a contact e-mail, not for discussion, or only for sensitive
+>>> discussion about specific persons.
+>>
+>> That was exactly the purpose -- one contact point !
+>> (Which we can put in various documentation, etc.)
+>> That way if I'm not available -- on holidays, sick or whatever, I could
+>> alert the others to ensure a fast response.  And they could always help
+>> out if they wanted.
+>> And if someone takes my place, it would be a transparent changeover.
+>>
+>> Sensitive discussion could happen with the group, but we could use direct
+>> contact as well.
+>> (We've been doing a bit in private setting up, but I see that as mostly
+>> temporary.  Other than sensitive issues, I would see it as mostly
+>> coordination among ourselves.)
+>>
+>> Otherwise I would prefer everything in the open.
+>> (And I'm sure the others would agree.)
+>>
+>>>> For 2), I don't know what is better :
+>>>> - use an existing mailing list
+>>>> - create a new one
+>>
+>> mageia-dev seems good.  We can just try to limit it to a few threads at a
+>> time.
+>>
+>>>> I think you must try to use direct e-mail among you only when there's a
+>>>> good reason to avoid public discussion. Saying that it's not of general
+>>>> interest is not a good enough reason, I think. Do you have other reasons
+>>>> for wanting a private mailing list ?
+>>
+>> Agree totally.  No need.
+>>
+>> So in summary, it seems that we should have a group for contacts.
+>> (Say pmentoring-coord at group.mageia.org ?)
+>> And no need to add a mailing list.
+>
+> This e-mail seems complicated. What about packager-mentoring at group.mageia.org
+> ?
+>
+> Samuel
+
+OK :)
+
+-- 
+André
+