[Mageia-dev] %{foo} vs. %foo

Mon Aug 22 00:49:34 CEST 2011

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 12:27 AM, Colin Guthrie <mageia at colin.guthr.ie> wrote:
+> 'Twas brillig, and Zé at 21/08/11 23:16 did gyre and gimble:
+>> Hi,
+>>
+>> Theres been a private discussion regarding the macro correct layout, if
+>> %{foo} or %foo.
+>>
+>> This rised when in the wiki
+>> page http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=kde4_packaging_policy i changed
+>> the spec layout from %foo into %{foo} to be as a reference point, in
+>> wich mikala has reverted back to %foo, and this discussion has taken
+>> other porportions so i would like your opinions regarding this.
+>>
+>> I have pointed that for a wiki page should be proper to use %{...} to
+>> avoid doubts specially in beginners minds, since in some situations we
+>> need really to use the {} delimitations.
+>> In wich its recommendation its focused in this cute PDF from redhat website:
+>>
+>> http://www.redhat.com/promo/summit/2008/downloads/pdf/Wednesday_130pm_Tom_Callaway_OSS.pdf
+>>
+>> Im not refering that now we should use only %{...}, that usage can be
+>> handled from the user prespective (for example in my specs locally i
+>> generally dont use delimitations), some like others dont.
+>>
+>> As we also see in rpm macros
+>> document http://www.rpm.org/wiki/PackagerDocs/Macros that we can use
+>> both, but in all rpm docs and config files the common usage its with
+>> delimitations.
+>
+> FWIW, personally I tend to use delimiters also.
+>
+> I prefer it as it feels more like strict typing.... I know it's not but
+> I always like to make things totally and unequivocally explicit all the
+> same.
+>
+> I tend to do this in my bash scripts and even in PHP scripts too (tho'
+> annoyingly the PHP delimiters go outside of the variable identifier
+> unlike in RPM macros and bash, so it's syntactically a little different
+> but the same principles apply).
+>
+> Cheers
+>
+
+Me, i use both ( this depend if the rpm i work in had it or not ) but
+for new rpm i use %foo.
+
+But i don't see a need to add a policy for %{foo} against %foo.
+
+I don't understand Ze mail, he ask to use %{foo} and imposed it by
+changing in a spec file stating "  i changed the spec layout from %foo
+into %{foo} to be as a reference point, " and then in the same mail i
+read "for example in my specs locally i generally dont use
+delimitations".
+
+why this mail if you personnaly don't really care about the question ?
+just because mikala wasn't agree with you ?
+
+P.S: yeah i started to have enough now... ( too )
+