[Mageia-dev] Re : Re: new samba-squid subpackage proporsal

Fri Aug 5 21:19:06 CEST 2011

Why condicional suggest?
+All what i'm asking is ti do that subpackage and then i place
+Suggests: samba-squid-helper
+At squid's spec
+
+I don't get your point.
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+-----Message d'origine-----
+De : Maarten Vanraes <maarten.vanraes at gmail.com>
+À : mageia-dev at mageia.org
+Envoyé : ven., 05 août 2011, 17:48:34 UTC+00:00
+Objet : Re: [Mageia-dev] new samba-squid subpackage proporsal
+
+Op vrijdag 05 augustus 2011 19:05:43 schreef Luis Daniel Lucio Quiroz:
+> Le Vendredi 05 Août 2011 18:17:15 Maarten Vanraes a écrit :
+> > Op woensdag 03 augustus 2011 14:01:16 schreef Buchan Milne:
+> > > On Tuesday, 2 August 2011 22:23:24 Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+> > > > Op dinsdag 02 augustus 2011 17:04:41 schreef Buchan Milne:
+> > > > > Samba-common is the right package for this. I see no need to
+> > > > > have a
+> > > > > squid- specific subpackage (and then samba-apache,
+> > > > > samba-freeradius,
+> > > > > with the same content, or all virtual packages just pulling
+> > > > > samba-common).
+> > > > > 
+> > > > > Feel free to mess up your squid package by adding suggests on
+> > > > > samba-common, but since installing the right package is
+> > > > > trivially
+> > > > > solved by the admin and is a small portion of the work required,
+> > > > > I
+> > > > > would personally prefer not to increase the default footprint of
+> > > > > any
+> > > > > installation that pulls in squid.
+> > > > 
+> > > > this is really imho an example where conditional suggests could work
+> > > > well: if you have squid already installed and you're installing
+> > > > samba,
+> > > > this subpackage could then be suggested. (and vice versa).
+> > > 
+> > > But, it is irrelevant. samba-common is required by both samba-client
+> > > and samba-server, so you can't install samba without getting
+> > > ntlm_auth.
+> > 
+> > there is definately a misunderstanding here, conditional suggests are not
+> > usefull for requires, only for suggests
+> > 
+> > > This is really about whether squid should pull in any pieces of samba
+> > > by default, and could be solved by adding:
+> > > Suggests: samba-common
+> > > 
+> > > to squid. But, I don't see much value, as this is a small part of the
+> > > work required to get a single-sign on authentication solution for squid
+> > > against AD. The default squid.conf already has example configs showing
+> > > that ntlm_auth is required, and all we are saving the user is a 'urpmf
+> > > ntlm_auth' and a 'urpmi samba-common'. However, there are many
+> > > scenarios squid can be deployed (e.g. SSO with GSSAPI, basic auth with
+> > > LDAP, PAM, NIS etc., no authentication, peer cache only etc.), and I
+> > > don't see a reason to pull in samba-common by default, when it saves
+> > > the admin very little effort.
+> > > 
+> > > Regards,
+> > > Buchan
+> > 
+> > well if it was in a separate package (and not in samba-common), it would
+> > be interesting to have conditional suggests. because then samba would
+> > pull it in; and squid too, without needing samba if you don't have it.
+> > 
+> > but, maybe i'm misunderstanding this thread
+> 
+> That's what i was asking
+> to create a new subpckage  samba-helper-squid to stor ntlm_auth since
+> ntlm_auth is not linked with other lib it can stand by itself in a
+> independend subpackage to make a suggest from squid.  But it seems Buchan
+> refuses.
+> 
+> LD
+
+
+well, it's possible, but since there is no conditional suggests yet, i agree 
+with Buchan. if there was conditional suggests, that would be better...
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