[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

Sat Dec 4 21:32:51 CET 2010

Dale Huckeby a écrit :
+> On Sat, 4 Dec 2010, andre999 wrote:
+>
+>> John a écrit :
+>>>
+>>> On Fri, 3 Dec 2010 11:28:26 +0100
+>>> Maarten Vanraes wrote:
+>>>
+>>>> Op vrijdag 03 december 2010 10:45:05 schreef Ahmad Samir:
+>>>> [...]
+>>>>> The kernel uses the word "tainted" when it detects the nvidia
+>>>>> proprietary module for example, (which admittedly gave me a bit of
+>>>>> shock the first time I saw it :)).
+>>>>
+>>>> Heh, i had the same reaction.
+>>>>
+>>>>> From all the proposed names, I think "tainted" is the best one, as the
+>>>>>
+>>>>> packages in there are in a "grey" zone, i.e. not totally illegal
+>>>>> everywhere, but illegal only in some places in the world. And in
+>>>>> reality the existence of a patent doesn't necessarily mean it's
+>>>>> enforceable in a court of law (the only way we'd know for sure is if
+>>>>> someone actually does try to sue)... my 0.02€ worth :)
+>>
+>> Generally only potentially "illegal" in some countries.
+>> "Tainted" means contaminated, polluted. A lot stronger than
+>> potentially "illegal". (Really only actionable in a civil sense, not
+>> criminally illegal, as well.)
+>> A package could end up there due to an apparently credible rumour,
+>> later discredited. (Anyone remember SCO ?)
+>
+> I agree. Problematic comes closer to "potentially illegal", so I looked
+> up some synonyms: ambiguous, debatable, dubious,
+> iffy, suspect, speculative, precarious, suspicious, uncertain,
+> unsettled, in addition to problematic itself. Personally
+> I like iffy, which is both short and to the point, but I think several
+> of these would do. WDYT?
+>
+> Dale Huckeby
+>
+A much better set of choices.
+(Thanks for looking these up.  Good idea.)
+
+Let's remember that the question for these packages is not the quality 
+of their functioning - but rather the advisability to use them, for 
+other reasons, in some countries.
+So I think that it is better to avoid words that could question the 
+QUALITY of the packages.
+
+Words in the list like
+  ambiguous, debatable, problematic, and speculative
+avoid questioning the quality ... but could be too long or too formal.
+Or just not catchy enough ;)
+("Iffy" might be ok - certainly catchy enough.)
+
+Additional words I found in Roget's thesaurus, along the same lines :
+
+Associated more with debatable :
+arguable, contestable, controvertible, disputable, questionable,
+
+Associated more with controversial :
+confutable, deniable, mistakable, moot
+
+Of these additional words, I think that "contestable", "disputable", and 
+"controversial" are probably closest to the SENSE of the repositories.
+But maybe too formal ?
+
+Many of these words could be good choices.
+And maybe someone will come up with some more ?
+
+my 2 cents :)
+
+- André
+