[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

Tue Nov 30 03:01:21 CET 2010

Michael Scherer a écrit :
+> Le lundi 29 novembre 2010 à 14:28 +0100, Olivier Thauvin a écrit :
+>    
+>> * Thomas Backlund (tmb at iki.fi) wrote:
+>>      
+>>> Olivier Thauvin skrev 29.11.2010 03:06:
+>>>        
+>>>> * Thomas Backlund (tmb at iki.fi) wrote:
+>>>> I can't agree with the "mirrors are free to not mirror this media",
+>>>> three reasons:
+>>>> 1) I don't see an easy and safe way for mirrors to exclude a media (a
+>>>> directory + hdlist in media/media_info) in each distribution,
+>>>>          
+>>> Thats easy, just use --exclude-from
+>>>
+>>> On my local mirror I exclude the debug stuff
+>>> so I use --exclude-from=excclude.lst
+>>>
+>>> # cat exclude.lst
+>>> i586/media/*debug*
+>>> i586/media/media_info/*debug*
+>>> x86_64/media/*debug*
+>>> x86_64/media/media_info/*debug*
+>>>
+>>> And thats all needed.
+>>> We can even provide this exclude file ourselves on the mirrors so we
+>>> know its correct and if we change the mirror layout, we update the file.
+>>>        
+>> Completly not realist on mirror admin side.
+>>
+>> You really have to remember that first mirror admin job is not maintains
+>> mirrors. They have often hundred of users on their back waiting for
+>> fixes.
+>>
+>> When such will go wrong, nobody will be able to check and fix.
+>>      
+> The issue is that we have 2 types of mirror admins :
+>
+> - there is some of them who are hobbyist/enthusiasts, that use their own
+> server for that, and that mirror only one or 2 distros, and that may not
+> do it for their job or as part of their job. I think for example
+> Wolfgang would be in this category. They want to help us, but they may
+> have slightly limited ressources. But they can have time to tweak the
+> mirroring to fit what they can offer to us.
+>
+> - on the other end of the spectrum, we have people who manage lots of
+> mirrors, with more bandwidth and bigger servers, more , but maybe not
+> more time. Ie people that does it as part of their job, with the
+> associate increase of ressources and work that come with a job.
+>
+> So admins that are more of the type 1 are likely ok with following
+> lists, giving input, tweaking rsync scripts, etc. They are the one that
+> could help us by giving stats or stuff like that, because they have the
+> time. But that's also people who may have more trouble ( because of
+> lesser ressources )
+>
+> Type 2 would prefer to not have too much to do because they may have
+> better thing to do. Ideally, they set up and do not touch for the 10
+> next year and that's ok.
+>
+> So we need to take in account this divide.
+>    
+Good points.
+> We can't have just one type or the other, but in both case, a simpler
+> mirroring process will benefit to everybody.
+>
+>    
+- André
+