[Mageia-dev] Mirror layout, round two

Mon Nov 29 12:46:22 CET 2010

Thomas Backlund a écrit :
+>
+> ...
+>
+> One thing hit me now...
+> I've only been thinking of current cooker and all of the old stuff 
+> there...
+>
+> But since we are going to have to import/rebuild every package we 
+> need, it gets real easy... We just dont import any unmaintained stuff.
+
+Note that just because a package doesn't have an official maintainer, or 
+hasn't been changed for several years, doesn't mean that it is 
+non-functional.  So packages should be tested before being eliminated.
+>
+> That way we get a clean mirror start for Mageia.
+>
+> And if someone import a package, it makes him the maintainer.
+>
+> Then if a package loses it maintainer, we need a policy like "if its 
+> not maintained for X months, we drop it from the mirrors...
+
+I have some very nice small programs that work very well on my system, 
+that haven't been changed/maintained for years.
+It might be better to use unmaintained packages as a training ground for 
+new packagers, as suggested elsewhere in this thread.
+>
+> So the mirror medias accordingly to all comments so far would be a 
+> simple:
+>
+> * core
+>   - enabled by default
+>   - mirrors must mirror this media to be listed as a mirror
+>   - only GPL stuff
+>   - must be selfcontained
+
+As already commented in previous posts, I would rather see this split 
+into 2 parts :
+1) core = really core (or very useful) to a fully functional desktop or 
+server or developer system.
+Examples include packages for the kernel, usual Linux utilities and 
+development tools, drivers, drak* and associated tools, complete desktop 
+environments (such as Gnome, KDE, LXDE), and common applications such as 
+LibreOffice (successor to Go-Openoffice) and Firefox.
+
+  This would essentially be a subset (most) of Mandriva main, with 
+possibly some from Mandriva contrib.  These packages may not depend on 
+packages in extra.
+  Every effort must be collectively made to ensure that packages in this 
+group are maintained.
+
+and
+
+2) extra = supplementary packages which, if they break, will not affect 
+core.
+  This is essentially all (or least all maintained) of Mandriva contrib 
+and much of Mandriva main.
+Typical examples include calendar printing programs, poedit (for 
+translators), and games.
+
+Extra would probably be much larger than main.  (After eliminating 
+non-functional non-maintained packages.)
+>
+> * nonfree
+>   - disabled by default, installer will ask to enable it if
+>     it detects hw that need driver/fw from here...
+>   - mirrors must mirror this media to be listed as a mirror
+>   - contains apps/drivers/firmware that are free to redistribute,
+>     but we dont have GPL source for
+>   - for example ati/nvidia drivers/firmware, Oracle Java, ...
+>
+> * tainted
+>   - disabled by default
+>   - mirrors are free to not mirror this media
+>   - stuff we think we can redistribute, but that may have some
+>     patent issues or other restrictions in oter countries.
+
+I would rather call it "restricted".  For most potential users, its 
+content wouldn't be seen as "tainted".
+
+Otherwise, it seems a good breakdown.
+Note
+>
+> -- 
+> Thomas
+
+- André
+
+