[Mageia-dev] Mirror tree structure

Thu Oct 21 21:36:49 CEST 2010

On Thu, Oct 21, 2010 at 12:44:16AM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+> * Remy CLOUARD (shikamaru at mandriva.org) wrote:
+> > On Wed, Oct 20, 2010 at 06:34:24PM +0200, Olivier Thauvin wrote:
+> > > Hi,
+> > > 
+> > > The peoples/ directory is dedicated to contributors and must allow
+> > > anyone to share files related to the distribution (testing rpms,
+> > > preworks) in an unofficial ways.
+> > > How this can be setup in practice still have to be discuss.
+> > Hi, I would like to ask some details about this:
+> > As some of you might know, I’m using awesome for a window manager and
+> > have been providing RPMS for quite some time for it on my website.
+> > 
+> > May I use the peoples repository to provide it as well as a customized
+> > cairo (with xcb enabled) ?
+> 
+> As a mirror manager I say yes: I'll discuss with sys-admin team about
+> how we can setup this, with a per user disk space limit (to avoid
+> issue).
+> 
+> From a project point of view it is veey different. The mirror tree is
+> what some people will see about Mageia and I do think:
+> - people content must be related to mageia
+Well, RPMS compiled for mageia are by definition related to mageia :-)
+> - everything that can be included in the distrib must provide as RPMs
+>   using BS
+Well this would allow the chroot to fetch packages from these
+alternatives repositories and could automate the process.
+> - people content must respect our policies.
+> 
+> In a nutshell: this must be discuss. Having a people is at time just an
+> idea, but it solve a need I had in mandriva to provide some rpms for
+> testing purpose.
+> 
+> > 
+> > Will users be able to add this as another repository ?
+> 
+> I don't know any process to deny someone to push hdlists and rpms.
+> However I don't think it is a good idea to use this space as an
+> alternative to oficial mageia. The risk is to confuse people.
+Well, I don’t think it’s about confusing people, after all these
+packages are in a different subtree than regular packages, rather
+giving choice. I know at least one person who said on #mageia-de that
+mageia would be a no-go for him if he couldn’t have awesome.
+
+In Gentoo you have the ability to define your own USE flags to tweak
+your system to your needs. Here’s what it says when you activate the xcb
+flag and emerge cairo:
+
+WARN: postinst
+You have enabled the Cairo XCB backend which is used only by
+a select few apps. The Cairo XCB backend is presently
+un-maintained and needs a lot of work to get it caught up
+to the Xrender and Xlib backends, which are the backends used
+by most applications. See:
+http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/xcb/2008-December/004139.html
+
+I thought about using a README.urpmi to show in the %post section in a
+similar way. Of course we’re not gentoo and as we provide precompiled
+packages it doesn’t allow us to do things in a similar way (though we
+could provide some mechanisms like AUR for arch).
+
+The whole idea is that some people won’t feel “ghettoized” because they
+use something different than KDE or GNOME, though the concept can be
+extended to anything and not just window managers/desktop environments.
+> 
+> Also, I'd like to notice this space is not a way to provide your own
+> project, there is platform for that (sourceforge, zarb, gnu, etc...)
+Don’t get me wrong here, I was not talking about hosting a project, just
+packages for mageia.
+
+Regards,
+-- 
+Rémy CLOUARD
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