[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

Mon Oct 18 12:25:38 CEST 2010

On 14 October 2010 19:05, Tux99 <tux99-mga at uridium.org> wrote:
+>> However, I then found that the new version of VLC had problems with
+>> DVD menus, and the new CUPS introduced problems (not just in my
+>> installation but at least one other Mandriva user).
+>
+> I would put this down to the fact that currently in Mandriva backports
+> are given little attention by the packagers (as has been mentioned by
+> the Mandriva packagers here themselves).
+
+You really look only at what you want :-)
+
+> Of course if we make them more central to the Mageia strategy then more
+> care and testing is needed before a backport is pushed out.
+
+That just mean double the amount of work for the QA team...
+Experience told us that QA team has already too much work, the same
+way, bug triage team has too much work, ...
+
+And double is a minimum since :
+- you're asking for quite a lot more agressive backports, thus quite a
+lot more packages to test
+- instead of just testing the security hole & basic work, we would
+have to test quite a lot more stuff.
+  (eg: for above VLC, playing various video, playing various musics,
+playing DVD, ...)
+- there would be quite a lot more situation to checks. eg:
+  o bare distro + one updated package
+  o bare distro + one backported package
+  o bare distro + one backported package + backported some of its deps
+
+Whereas updates can be tested on top of released distro + its updates,
+for backports, we would have to test the distro + its updates, the
+distro with some backports applied, ...
+
+You're asking for a maintenance nightmare.
+
+Let's focus. Let's maintain & stabilize one thing at a time, that is a
+distro every 6 monthes.
+
+> So I wouldn't consider that a fundamental issue with backports, just a
+> procedural issue.
+
+Yeah sure.
+
+> Also personally I would consider CUPS a core app so I wouldn't have
+> included that in backports at all.
+
+No comment...
+And what about above VLC?
+Cannot you understand that _ANY_ backport can & will break ?
+
+That's remains me new MDV leadership who tried to explain to us how
+easy it's to maintain a stabe distro with 10% of the team...
+
+
+
+Unrelated, I just found out that fglrx updates are half in
+http://ftp.free.fr/pub/Distributions_Linux/MandrivaLinux/official/2010.1/x86_64/media/main/updates/
+and half in nonfree/release... whereas they're fully not open
+source...
+