[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

Fri Oct 15 14:36:46 CEST 2010

On Fri, Oct 15, 2010 at 11:40, Tux99 <tux99-mga at uridium.org> wrote:
+> [...]
+
+Ok. This is, again, going nowhere. We don't even follow who is trying
+to make what point.
+
+> On Fri, 15 Oct 2010, Romain d'Alverny wrote:
+>> Who talks about marketing here? Please stay on topic. Misc is talking
+>> about official representatives, board members liability - not only in
+>> France, but abroad. We're not in Merovingian times where one was
+>> judged according to his original land's law.
+>
+> Assuming that a board member get's arrested in the US because Mageia
+
+Who talks about being arrested or "frightened"?... Being liable and
+being arrested are two distinct things...
+
+
+>> There is no guarantee that we won't setup affiliate not-for-profit
+>> orgs abroad.
+>> Etc.
+>
+> If for this reason Mageia has to be a crippled mediocre product then all
+> these precautions were a wast of time and efforts too.
+> There is no point in making a grand, legally sound structure for a
+> useless product with a fading community.
+
+...
+
+I don't understand your point, neither your attitude here...
+
+> A successfull Mageia would strive to take advantage of the countries
+> with the best laws for it's interest rather than plan according to the
+> lowest common denominator.
+
+Who said that was the plan?...
+
+>> wouldn't have located the association in France. There are other
+>> places far more interesting in this regard.
+>
+> And if you want Mageia to be really successful you should take advantage
+> of those places.
+
+Yes, right. :-) You know better the picture/history we (founders) are
+in. We're not going to incorporate right now at the other end of the
+world. :-)
+
+>>  - what do we _want_ to have in software repositories and _why_?
+>
+> Easy, we want the best distro possible, with the best possible out of
+> the box experience,
+
+That is a very vague statement. "I want it all". However, we will get
+to that in time, see my previous post (yesterday) about the goal(s) of
+Mageia.org.
+
+>>  - what are legal constraints that we must deal with
+>> (building/packaging/distributing/using), and how?
+>
+> We should strive to take advantage of the best legal environment to make
+> our targets possible.
+
+Sure. In a sustainable way.
+
+>>  - how can we make this a predictable process for future situations?
+>
+> No one can predict the future, laws change all the time so the only way
+> is to base ourselves on current valid laws and keep frexible to move to
+> a better legal environment if necessary.
+
+This was not relative to laws only, but to the project mission first.
+
+> Opportunities not fear should be the key word here.
+
+Who speaks about fear? we're speaking about finding a policy for the
+project here.
+
+And I believe we are all able to _discuss_ this calmly without being
+offensive... Again, this conversation is going nowhere.
+
+Please, guys, post a _proposal_ for comments somewhere in a fixed
+format (blog, wiki page, anything) before proposing it for comment in
+a mail discussion. Or... make sure to frame the conversation, in
+topic, in time and in language.
+
+Cheers,
+
+Romain
+