[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

Thu Oct 14 15:27:03 CEST 2010

On Thursday, 14 October 2010 04:59:52 Fernando Parra wrote:
+> On Wed, 13 Oct 2010 08:20:40 -0400
+> 
+> Sinner from the Prairy <sinnerbofh-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w at public.gmane.org> 
+wrote:
+> > Fernando Parra wrote:
+> > > (Finally, it would not be as strict versions of certain components. If,
+> > > for example morning out mageia 2010 (for instance) and the day after
+> > > Firefox 4.0 comes out, you do not run the 3.6.x version with all the
+> > > time,)
+> > > 
+> > > That's very clear, these users are trying to say: "We want a different
+> > > model, but we want a stable distro"
+> > 
+> > As we have been saying over and over again, this only indicates zero
+> > knowledge of backports repositories.
+> > 
+> > We should publicize more Backports.
+> > 
+> 
+> And I shall reply over and over again, backports isn't a solution, maybe
+> it's a technical solution, but it isn't The Solution.
+> 
+
+What aspects of the Mandriva backports solution are not satisfactory?
+
+-The fact that not everything is available as a backport?
+-That users don't know how to request a backport?
+-That too many backports are available?
+-That all users don't get them by default?
+-That users doing network installs by default don't get the backport on 
+initial installation?
+-That users aren't aware of backports?
+-Something else?
+
+Please provide some *CONSTRUCTIVE* criticism, or the people who have been 
+doing the effort of *PROVIDING* the backports, as well as using them, will 
+probably just write you off as not knowing what is available.
+
+IMHO, backports is relatively successful. No one who has criticised backports 
+has provided a valid reason, that takes into account what it *does* provide, 
+indicating where it fails.
+
+> The end users need to do less than now for to get new versions of their
+> favourites applications.
+
+Less than 'urpmi --searchmedia Backports chromium' ?
+
+Or, should it be more obvious in rpmdrake or similar? How about commenting on 
+my proposal for UI change in rpmdrake making backports more obvious?
+
+> Mageia needs to offer more than other distros, much more, in a different
+> way. If we aren't to be able to make a completely new concept, we are in a
+> serious risk to become in other distro at that sea called GNU / Linux.
+
+Again, before we can decide what *more* we should do (what significant 
+resources we need to commit), maybe we should first understand why the 
+existing features (which have significant effort behind them) are not 
+resulting in user satisfaction.
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
+