[Mageia-dev] Mageia repository sections, licenses, restrictions, firmware etc

Tue Oct 12 19:31:21 CEST 2010

Le 2010-10-12 12:54, Lucien-Henry Horvath a écrit :
+> Le 12/10/2010 18:42, Marc Paré a écrit :
+>>
+>> Unfortunately, if this is done, I will no longer be able to install
+>> legally any Mageia due to our laws. I think it is best if these are
+>> not installed but let users know where to get them, mostly through PLF.
+>>
+>> When I install Mandriva Free for people, I will let them know where
+>> the PLF repos are and the files needed and they install these themselves.
+>>
+>> If Mageia packages include unlicensed software and codecs, the Mageia
+>> brand may be held legally responsible for marketing software in
+>> countries where the laws do not permit this. I don't really think
+>> would be a wise decision.
+>>
+>> Marc
+>> Canada
+>>
+> The problem with a modification of packages with PLF post an initial
+> install is that we are not absolutely sure to clean/drop/definitively
+> destroy the "patent compliant packages" ... the dependencies between rpm
+> are in cause.
+>
+> I have not done the count, but often it is not possible for me to
+> uninstall certain packages because after installation they come in the
+> dependencies of others. But the unique reason of presence is not because
+> they are usefull, but only this binding dependencies.
+>
+>
+> I think now to a sort of option to choice just at the beginning of first
+> install. A question like : "Do you need patent free packages or want you
+> cool packages" ?
+> - If response 1 : Mageia install only the legal compliances packages,
+> - if 2 ... the legal packages are not installed and we have the easy to
+> use package for easy to use OS (VLC with DVD for example, nvidia drivers).
+> With that, all the world is satisfied ;-)
+>
+> Is it possible ?
+>
+>
+Hi Lucien, this is not directed to you but to the discussion on this thread:
+
+There was actually nothing wrong with the Mandriva treatment of repos. 
+It clearly satisfied everyone's expectation of their installation. It 
+became a matter of user choice. By installing, by default, non-licensed 
+software you are not giving the user the choice. You are then targeting 
+a group of users who can install without legal consequence. If Mageia.ca 
+or Mageia.us etc. decided to organize, then as entities, they would then 
+become liable for the publication of illegal software. In Canada, they 
+are a little more lenient than in the US. I cannot imagine anyone 
+organising such a group in the US where they would accept liability for 
+this.
+
+If there is a choice of installing non-licensed software, then it should 
+be done at the user level and not at the Mageia level. Non-licensed 
+software will not be accepted by any educational establishments, 
+business, government, associations ...
+
+The safest route is to offer FOSS software (they are well known and many 
+have had their code audited) and leave the "fringe" softs on a repo that 
+is left to the users' choice as install.
+
+I thought that PLF were on board with the Mageia project. Does anyone know?
+
+Marc
+
+