[Mageia-dev] How will be the realese cycle?

Thu Oct 7 11:36:41 CEST 2010

+Le jeudi 7 octobre 2010 11:20:04, Buchan Milne a écrit :
+> The fact that almost no-one on this list seems to have known about backports 
+> at all doesn't mean that the backports feature is not useful, it may be that 
+> it wasn't accessible enough to end users.
+
++1
+
+> Now, maybe the user interface needs to be improved. For example, maybe there 
+> should be no dropdown box, but instead when searching for a package by name, 
+> it should show you all the versions:
+> 
+> ============================================================================
+> Find: | digikam         | In: ->Graphical applications   |By: ->Package Name
+> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
+> Package|                |Status                          | Action          
+> +digikam                |Security update recommended     |Update            |
+> - 1.3.0-1mdv            |Installed                       |Uninstall         |
+> - 1.3.0-1.1mdv          |Security Update                 |Update            |
+> - 1.4.0-4mdv            |Unsupported upgrade (backport)  |Upgrade           |
+> 
+> -----------------------------------------------------------------------------
+> digikam - A KDE ........
+> 
+> =============================================================================
+
++1
+
+
+> 
+> 
+> Alternatively, maybe a "What's new" view?
+
+Oh yes, let's do it !
+
+> 
+> Maybe a rating/voting/popularity system should be available, however in the 
+> past people had complained about privacy issues, which I think may have 
+> resulted in little effort being put into completion of drakstats.
+> 
+> So, maybe a web site should also be developed, which allows users to also 
+> access package rating information, and which provides some kind of 
+> installation feature.
+
+Yes this web site could :
+- allow package rating
+- show download stats (if possible)
+- show recent versions updates (with the highest rating packages more visible than an obscure lib :))
+- allow backport / new package requests (I know, bugzilla used to be the place where you did that previously, but can't we find a way to link both). This way packagers would have more visibility on the user's needs. 
+
+> I think one problem Mandriva had was that users refused to believe that:
+> -Mandriva was open
+> -Contributors could easily improve the distribution
+> -Mandriva probably already had most of what they wanted, and if it didn't, 
+> they should do what they can do to help
+> 
+> For example, many people complained about bugs that get no attention, but *1* 
+> contributor managed to change that perception to some extent. However, if more 
+> people contributed, more bugs would actually be fixed.
+> 
+> Mandriva the company may have been a barrier to contribution to some, and I 
+> think one of the most important aspects of Mageia is ensuring that 
+> contributors know exactly what happens to their contribution, and knowing that 
+> the financial state of a company does not impact the future availability of 
+> the project to which they contributed.
+> 
+
+OK, buchan, how do we start ? Shall we put improvements proposals (UI, website, ...) on the wiki, on 
+http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=rollingdebate ?
+
+> 
+> The problem is to make it *easier* for users to get new versions of software, 
+> not to force everyone to upgrade constantly.
+
++1
+
+Samuel
+
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