[Mageia-dev] Various proposals around backports and other media management

Wed Oct 6 12:20:54 CEST 2010

Le mardi 05 octobre 2010 à 23:06 +0100, Buchan Milne a écrit :
+> On Tuesday, 5 October 2010 19:46:45 Samuel Verschelde wrote:
+
+> > Some user communities already did that for 3rd party
+> > repositories for Mandriva, and having it in a centralized and visible
+> > place would make backports more visible. How many users know that latest
+> > versions for wine, wesnoth (one of the best opensource games), vlc, and
+> > many other packages are already available in backports media for mandriva
+> > ? Today there is a changelog mailing list, but this is not for everyone.
+> > This would be more user-centric than packager-centric. I tried to improve
+> > backports visibility on the Mandriva forum, but without any automation it
+> > took an enormous amount of time to maintain :
+> > http://forum.mandriva.com/viewforum.php?f=123 (see threads beginning with
+> > "New Soft" or "Backport")
+> 
+> RSS feed or use of twitter by build system may be useful ....
+
+Youri already have RSS, afaik. 
+http://www.zarb.org/cgi-bin/viewvc.cgi/youri/soft/submit/trunk/lib/Youri/Submit/Step/Action/RSS.pm?revision=2100&view=markup
+
+Twitter/statusnet could be easy to add , according to
+http://status.net/wiki/Libraries , this would quite trivial 
+
+I even think that a plugin to post on a forum could be done. A little
+bit less trivial, but I am ok to work on it, once everything we have is
+running.
+
+> > - (the biggest part, but the one with most long term benefits I hope) add
+> > metadata to media to make urpmi more media-aware. Today, rpmdrake detects
+> > backports because the backports media have "backports" in their name.
+> > That's a (useful) hack, but we could do better. One solution could be to
+> > give metadata to each media : * release vs updates vs backports
+> >  * testing vs stable
+> >  * debug vs non-debug
+> > Combination of these "tags" would give the following media :
+> >     * main release (just like today's media)
+> >     * main updates
+> >     * main updates testing : for update candidates, this is our current
+> > "main testing" media * main backports
+> >     * main backports testing : for backports candidates (as someone who
+> > frequently does backports, I sometimes feel the lack for it) 
+> 
+> As long as it doesn't take the focus off the development release. In Mandriva, 
+> I think there were some uploads to backports before the upload to cooker, 
+> which can cause problems for users if not corrected.
+
+We have solved the problem at PLF by forcing build to appear in cooker
+first. It is just a youri plugin.
+
+
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
+
+