[Mageia-dev] About Mandriva tools future : Host Mandriva tools on github

Sat Oct 2 13:28:54 CEST 2010

On Fri, Oct 1, 2010 at 10:30 PM, Sinner from the Prairy <
+sinnerbofh at gmail.com> wrote:
+
+> Fabrice Facorat wrote:
+>
+> > 2010/10/1 Romain d'Alverny
+> > <rdalverny at gmail.com>:
+> (...)
+> >> Both (substance, appearance) are crucial. If you only consider one
+> >> without balancing, making it consistent with the other, you're not
+> >> going down the right path. The interface, the whole experience with it
+> >> is the product.
+> >
+> > sure, but appearance is the key point.
+> >
+> > Archos is a good example of what we should not do ...
+> >
+> > I'm still amazed by the technicals limits of the iPhone, and how
+> > people can still want to buy them ... same for iPod ...
+> >
+> > iPod : no mp3, no FM radio, no USB mass storage support
+> > iPhone : no standard visio, no ability to create without iTunes or
+> > third party tools photo albums, less capable facebook integration, no
+> > FM radio, no flash,  and so on ...
+>
+> iProducts don't have all the bullet points, all the technical specs that an
+> UberGeek would like.
+>
+> But the ones they have: work great, are integrated with the rest of the
+> ecosystem, are user-friendly and they are aesthetically pleasant.
+>
+> By focusing on 90% of specs and getting them to be 95% perfect, instead of
+> having 100% of specs and getting them to be just 50% workable, regular
+> people (95% of the population) like their products.
+>
+> Apple's approach mimics the Unix philosophy (every small tool covers a task
+> extremely well, and integrates with the rest of the Unix system): every
+> single technical bullet point included does a task extremely well with the
+> rest of the tools and look'n'feel.
+>
+> Mandriva tries that, with look'n'feel consistent on MCC, KDE and Gnome.
+> draketools work on TUI or GUI. They work well.
+>
+> IMHO, Mageia should improve on Mandriva, not try to get just "bullet
+> points"
+> on what our distro does.
+>
+> Let's pick our battles, go the Unix way, make sure what Mageia does, it
+> does
+> very well. And as Linux is Linux is Linux is Linux, it will do everything
+> else as well (and the kitchen sink).
+>
+>
+> Salut,
+> Sinner
+>
+>
+IMHO, a home user would have one major DE, KDE or Gnome or other. I think it
+is unlikely to change it (maybe once in 10 years). The key in appearance is
+to have a nice aspect in each DE rather be the same look in Gnome or KDE or
+other. I guess that each environment will fit some user's taste in its
+native look.
+The Drake tools must be cross DE and consistent.
+Mac OS is an unix derivative. I love their look and ergonomy. They have a
+serious team of ergonomists and designers. This is what a Linux distro needs
+to be successful. i.e. Mageia. The IMHO, Apple products are too expensive, a
+regular PC at the same performance and of a acceptable quality offers the
+same for a half of the price. And you could renew it faster for the same
+money. Their apps are brilliant from usability point of view and very good
+looking. They focus on a very limited hardware in variety. This is their
+advantage. Their hardware is also the best in quality (this is why they cost
+so much also). I prefer open source though.
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