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[Mageia-dev] A comparison of forum software from a security POV

+ Tux99 + tux99-mga at uridium.org +
+ Wed Sep 29 00:04:31 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, [UTF-8] andré wrote:
+
+>> I had mostly decided to take myBB since it has a very good reputation
+>> and is considered relatively secure (and this check I did confirms
+>> that), but since I discovered FUDforum a few days ago and tested it on
+>> the weekend I have now decided that FUDforum is the ideal choice for me
+>> (and IMHO also for the Mageia forum).
+>>    
+> To me, the translations available, and their quality, are important 
+> factors for forum software.
+> The phpBB presentation on their site looks good, and they have a lot of 
+> translations available - as plugins.
+> But the FUDforum site - and the translations available - is really 
+> impressive.
+> Many languages are available out-of-the-box, and many more can be 
+> added.
+> Also, translations can be readily created - or corrected - which is a 
+> big plus, as we won't be dependant on others to correct simple 
+> translation errors, or add new translations.
+> I don't know the features in detail, but from the presentation on the 
+> respective sites, I would also choose FUDforum for Mageia.
+
+I haven't looked much into how translations are handled in FUDforum, but 
+I'm not surprised you found them very well done since I found the same 
+thing is the case with the skins, it's is really straightforward to 
+personalise the look of FUDforum.
+
+Also I find the feedback from the developers to bug reports couldn't be 
+better. I found that the ML import feature wasn't able to handle POP3 
+over SSL (only POP3/STARTTLS), so I reported it and they provided a 
+patch in less than 24 hours!
+
+I'm sold on FUDforum and I would highly recommend to whoever will be 
+deciding on the Mageia forum to do a test install of FUDforum and check 
+it out too, the ML gateway feature and the well implemented threading is 
+already reason enough to chose FUDforum (but the remaining features are 
+easily on par with phpBB and myBB too).
+
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-dev] So?

+ Maât + maat-ml at vilarem.net +
+ Wed Sep 29 00:44:18 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Le 28/09/2010 21:08, Lucien-Henry Horvath a écrit :
+> EN (lecteurs français, je vous conseille de lire ci-dessous)
+>
+> Okay, - What is the governance of this project ?
+>
+Hi Lucien,
+
+As you may know (or may not) this project started rather quickly with a
+great amount of energy and many positive reactions. But the plans were
+not precise because people did not have the time to plan it minutely :)
+
+So this project WILL have a public governance as stated on "New grounds"
+chapter on http://mageia.org
+
+Having a self-proclaimed board (made of the core people on whom the
+distribution used to rely for building and realease roadmaps)  for the
+first year while we try to make our beloved distribution survive is
+something i consider neither illogical not illegitimate :)
+
+So even if the board is not precisely named i can guess a number of
+names that could appear in the list without shocking me :)
+
+If you're old enough in mandrake/mandriva i think you can even have a
+better gess :)
+
+> I believe that the old worker of Mandriva are the most activs. But it
+> is not very false when person like Mahteus (or me), are feeling a
+> problem.
+>
+> I don't doubt that the governance of the project is not null ... But
+> we, others of "who maintain the list", we don't see anything.
+>
+Well it's all over again the myth of the one-month-child :)
+
+(For those who do not know about this "myth" think about this : while
+one woman can have a baby in nine months, with nine women you'll never
+be able to have a baby in one month ^^)
+
+At the moment there are a very little number of "babies" : the build
+system (highest priority, requires money from the donations), the web
+servers ( lower priority because we have temporary replacement sites
+like the blog and the root website )
+
+These "babies" we cannot put many womens to have them... that would make
+no sense to send zillions of people to bring servers in a datacenter
+(and the datacenter owner would not let many enter)... same thing for
+servers (even if there will be 5 or 6 in the build system) install and
+configuration : a handful of sysadmins are enough for that... having a
+man per keyboard key would not speed up things you can trust me :)
+
+And before physical and software install, the design of global
+architecture and proof of concept made on sandbox machines cannot be
+charged on more than 2 or 3 guys :)
+
+That's just common sense... :)
+
+> Who is actually the captain, or most contributers ?
+>
+Actually we have ennael whom i consider the person currently nearest
+from this idea of "captain". But at the moment, to find a place in a
+datacenter, design the future build system and install a handful of rack
+servers we cannot parallelize more i guess :)
+
+And those who work on these tasks know perfectly what to do (i would bet
+on that) so they do not need a "captain"
+
+Later, the infrastructure, once up and running, will allow many people
+to work simultaneously. Please just give people time to set up this
+first stone of the building :)
+
+> Who is the team who decide the rules like : to put TXT format and not
+> HTML format in the mail of the list ? Or to speak only in english ? Or
+> to do only RPM and not DEB ? This 3 late days, I have only seen this
+> kind of movement.
+>
+For the first that's just a rule shared by every opensource project i
+know... it's just common sense again : many people do use pure text mail
+readers like mutt or pine... if you send html people will see rubbish
+full of <div><div><span><ul><li><i><b><a
+href="http://blahblah.blah/page">link to
+read</a></b></i></li><ul></span></div></div><table><th><td>something
+else to read</td><tr><td>....
+
+And for people who use mobile mail readers, html makes emails soooo
+sloooow to download :-(
+
+For english it's again common sense as english is the lowest common
+denominator for communications, hence it's a de-facto standard used in
+every big opensource community :)
+
+>
+> So, I think I (and a lot of others) will take more confidence in this
+> project if certain person said what they do.
+>
+That imho can be said without big concern...
+
+>
+> We have a wiki for write what each can do. But we have nothing for
+> "institute" what will be done, when, and who do what ?
+>
+>
+> Just a first question : when and where will be done the first meeting
+> of the foundation in France ? I want participate, I will take a day of
+> holidays in my company for the creation and write of the statuts of
+> this foundation. But, it seems that someone is back the decision, and
+> now, actually, I don't see who (or which group).
+>
+What foundation ? Afaik Mageia will rely on a not-for-profit dedicated
+organization. Not a foundation iirc.
+
+> Mageia will not survive if you make the sames mistake of the last
+> managers of Mandriva. For me it was : decision in dark and no
+> visibility to the community.
+>
+At the moment all the more or less important decisions have been voted
+and discussed on these lists afaik (Cauldron name, logo...)
+
+(Setting up a build system is not really a decision as we cannot work
+without it. It's just rough and hard work to prepare it on sandbox
+machines while waiting to have a place in a datacenter... and enough
+money to buy the real servers)
+
+> This community is not only maked from hard-coders for fun ... but also
+> people not exclusively technicians but can bring a lot to a community
+> (which I also learned to make ABAP / java / Ada95 10 years ago, but
+> now, I am no more exactly in this job ... and can give a little part
+> of me).
+>
+Well as said by many your (mine also i hope) and every volunteer help is
+most welcome but just now at this precise minute the tasks that can be
+processed are not so many and they take a fair amount of time to
+complete... those involved probably sleep little and work as hard as
+they can.
+
+Once this phase is finished i guess that many more people will be able
+to get in and contribute :)
+
+Please do not make things harder for those who work on the critical path
+and more unbearable the time for those who are waiting :-(
+
+Maât
+
+
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-dev] So?

+ Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior + ajunior at brasifort.com.br +
+ Wed Sep 29 02:02:51 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Yeah!
+
+;-)
+
+Júnior
+
+2010/9/28 Damien Lallement <mageia at damsweb.net>
+
+> Le 28/09/2010 20:02, Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior a écrit :
+>
+>  I agree. We want help in the job. So, we need define a leader, structure
+>> and any other thing.
+>>
+>> Hey guys, are you  ready?
+>>
+>> I'm ready!
+>>
+>
+> Great, did you put your name on the wiki?
+> --
+> Damien Lallement
+>
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[Mageia-dev] So?

+ Pascal Terjan + pterjan at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 02:33:16 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/28 Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior <ajunior at brasifort.com.br>
+
+> I agree. We want help in the job. So, we need define a leader, structure
+> and any other thing.
+>
+> Hey guys, are you  ready?
+>
+>
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Andre Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 03:03:05 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of the
+differences between these two environments. A critical point is the difference
+between the programs used to perform common tasks.
+
+Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome Center. What is
+this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user will do his first login - or
+when a new user is created and will do your first login, after loading the
+desktop environment, a window like the one I drew below will appear:
+
+http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png
+
+This is a simple idea: this window will show friendly descriptions to commom
+tasks besides icons of programs used to perform them. So the user will associate
+the program that needs to use the task that needs doing. When user clicks icon
+or text, the associated program will be launched.
+
+Of course, future we can disable the icons of programs that are not installed or
+provide a way to add more options.
+
+This certainly is a small and easy-to-do program that can be developed in
+minutes and hides a great easter egg ;)
+
+PS: I have the original SVG if someone is interested.
+
+
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior + ajunior at brasifort.com.br +
+ Wed Sep 29 03:13:04 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Andre,
+
+This a great idea.
+
+Júnior
+
+2010/9/28 Andre Machado <afmachado at dcemail.com>
+
+> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of
+> the
+> differences between these two environments. A critical point is the
+> difference
+> between the programs used to perform common tasks.
+>
+> Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome Center. What
+> is
+> this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user will do his first login
+> - or
+> when a new user is created and will do your first login, after loading the
+> desktop environment, a window like the one I drew below will appear:
+>
+> http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png
+>
+> This is a simple idea: this window will show friendly descriptions to
+> commom
+> tasks besides icons of programs used to perform them. So the user will
+> associate
+> the program that needs to use the task that needs doing. When user clicks
+> icon
+> or text, the associated program will be launched.
+>
+> Of course, future we can disable the icons of programs that are not
+> installed or
+> provide a way to add more options.
+>
+> This certainly is a small and easy-to-do program that can be developed in
+> minutes and hides a great easter egg ;)
+>
+> PS: I have the original SVG if someone is interested.
+>
+> _______________________________________________
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+> Mageia-dev at mageia.org
+> https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
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[Mageia-dev] So?

+ Andre Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 03:30:35 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
+> Ok, you are doing something, but the community around just see you guys
+talking and talking, sorry if this offned you, but me and other gauys really
+want to help you with the jobs.Regardas,Matheus
+> 
+
+Dear Matheus,
+
+the haste is the enemy of perfection.
+
+Reguards,
+
+André
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Matthieu P + matt.paret at hotmail.fr +
+ Wed Sep 29 08:29:34 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
  +1
+It is very important for beginner and old people.
+
+It would be configure during the installation.
+
+Matthieu
+
+Le 29/09/2010 03:13, Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior a écrit :
+> Andre,
+>
+> This a great idea.
+>
+> Júnior
+>
+> 2010/9/28 Andre Machado <afmachado at dcemail.com 
+> <mailto:afmachado at dcemail.com>>
+>
+>     We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux
+>     because of the
+>     differences between these two environments. A critical point is
+>     the difference
+>     between the programs used to perform common tasks.
+>
+>     Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome
+>     Center. What is
+>     this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user will do his
+>     first login - or
+>     when a new user is created and will do your first login, after
+>     loading the
+>     desktop environment, a window like the one I drew below will appear:
+>
+>     http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png
+>
+>     This is a simple idea: this window will show friendly descriptions
+>     to commom
+>     tasks besides icons of programs used to perform them. So the user
+>     will associate
+>     the program that needs to use the task that needs doing. When user
+>     clicks icon
+>     or text, the associated program will be launched.
+>
+>     Of course, future we can disable the icons of programs that are
+>     not installed or
+>     provide a way to add more options.
+>
+>     This certainly is a small and easy-to-do program that can be
+>     developed in
+>     minutes and hides a great easter egg ;)
+>
+>     PS: I have the original SVG if someone is interested.
+>
+>     _______________________________________________
+>     Mageia-dev mailing list
+>     Mageia-dev at mageia.org <mailto:Mageia-dev at mageia.org>
+>     https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+>
+>
+>
+> _______________________________________________
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+> Mageia-dev at mageia.org
+> https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Maât + maat-ml at vilarem.net +
+ Wed Sep 29 09:04:15 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Le 29/09/2010 03:03, Andre Machado a écrit :
+> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of the
+> differences between these two environments. A critical point is the difference
+> between the programs used to perform common tasks.
+>
+> Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome Center. What is
+> this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user will do his first login - or
+> when a new user is created and will do your first login, after loading the
+> desktop environment, a window like the one I drew below will appear:
+>
+> http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png
+>
+>   
+i like this idea !
+
+Maât
+
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ P. Christeas + p_christ at hol.gr +
+ Wed Sep 29 09:35:39 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
On Wednesday 29 September 2010, Maât wrote:
+
+> > http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png
+> 
+> i like this idea !
+> 
+
+I like it too. But it reminds me of the Mandriva welcome page:
+
+   The welcome "center" could well be the Mageia welcome page, in the same 
+sense that the Mandriva welcome page had appeared. It could have your 
+suggested layout, and a "help" tab/pane/button that would go to the welcome 
+text + have links to help documentation.
+
+Said that, I think a newbie would appreciate a page that would direct him/her 
+to some documentation like "What can I do with my new OS?", "How do I access 
+my files/programs?" "How can I configure/fix things?" etc.
+
+Said that (flash #2), we may have a dual system of keeping those docs: a cached 
+version stored in an rpm[1] package, and a big button on those (html?) pages 
+like: "go to latest version of this page on the Internet". That way, an offline 
+first installation (before network is functional) will still be able to read 
+docs. 
+
+
+[1] YES! rpm, not deb, not portage, not .exe or anything else...
+-- 
+Say NO to spam and viruses. Stop using Microsoft Windows!
+
+ + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 09:38:23 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/29 Maât <maat-ml at vilarem.net>:
+> Le 29/09/2010 03:03, Andre Machado a écrit :
+>>
+>> http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png
+>>
+> i like this idea !
+
+I like it only for this special case (first time user, etc.). I could
+imagine it as replacement of the Mandriva Galaxy Welcome screen, which
+pops up after system start and which can be closed and deactivated
+with a mouseclick.
+
+It may also be nice for large smartphones (aka netbooks)..
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Maât + maat-ml at vilarem.net +
+ Wed Sep 29 09:40:52 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Le 29/09/2010 09:35, P. Christeas a écrit :
+> On Wednesday 29 September 2010, Maât wrote:
+>
+>   
+>>> http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png
+>>>       
+>> i like this idea !
+>>
+>>     
+> I like it too. But it reminds me of the Mandriva welcome page:
+>
+>    The welcome "center" could well be the Mageia welcome page, in the same 
+> sense that the Mandriva welcome page had appeared. It could have your 
+> suggested layout, and a "help" tab/pane/button that would go to the welcome 
+> text + have links to help documentation.
+>   
+Well if we want also the distribution to be interesting for little and
+bigger companies we certainly have to think the home page of mageia site
+with more things in mind :)
+
+> Said that, I think a newbie would appreciate a page that would direct him/her 
+> to some documentation like "What can I do with my new OS?", "How do I access 
+> my files/programs?" "How can I configure/fix things?" etc.
+>
+>   
+agreed :)
+
+Maât
+
+
+
+ + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] So?

+ Mihai Dobrescu + msdobrescu at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 10:05:22 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 4:30 AM, Andre Machado <afmachado at dcemail.com>wrote:
+
+>
+> the haste is the enemy of perfection.
+>
+> Reguards,
+>
+> André
+>
+> <https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev>
+>
+
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Marcello Anni + marcello.anni at alice.it +
+ Wed Sep 29 11:28:51 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of
+> the differences between these two environments. A critical point is the
+> difference between the programs used to perform common tasks.
+> 
+> Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome Center. What
+> is this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user will do his first
+> login - or when a new user is created and will do your first login, after
+> loading the desktop environment, a window like the one I drew below will
+> appear:
+> 
+> http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png
+> 
+
+i like it : ) it can be created together with my (now becoming old) proposal 
+of creating a kde4 welcome plasmoid that shows how mandriva works (basis). 
+this is the bug link:
+
+https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=32617
+
+and this is the (basic) mockup:
+
+https://qa.mandriva.com/attachment.cgi?id=17504
+
+
+cheers,
+Marcello
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ atilla ontas + tarakbumba at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 12:12:38 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/29 Marcello Anni <marcello.anni at alice.it>:
+>> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of
+>> the differences between these two environments. A critical point is the
+>> difference between the programs used to perform common tasks.
+>>
+>> Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome Center. What
+>> is this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user will do his first
+>> login - or when a new user is created and will do your first login, after
+>> loading the desktop environment, a window like the one I drew below will
+>> appear:
+>>
+>> http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png
+>>
+>
+> i like it : ) it can be created together with my (now becoming old) proposal
+> of creating a kde4 welcome plasmoid that shows how mandriva works (basis).
+> this is the bug link:
+>
+> https://qa.mandriva.com/show_bug.cgi?id=32617
+>
+> and this is the (basic) mockup:
+>
+> https://qa.mandriva.com/attachment.cgi?id=17504
+>
+>
+> cheers,
+> Marcello
+> _______________________________________________
+> Mageia-dev mailing list
+> Mageia-dev at mageia.org
+> https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+>
+
+I suggest to look at Pardus Linux's Kaptan tool. It shows up to assist
+desktop/system configuration to new user. Such as from network setup
+to icon theme. Tough it is only KDE app.
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Sandro Cazzaniga + cazzaniga.sandro at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 13:16:52 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Le Wed, 29 Sep 2010 13:12:38 +0300,
+atilla ontas <tarakbumba at gmail.com> a écrit :
+
+> >> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux
+> >> because of the differences between these two environments. A
+> >> critical point is the difference between the programs used to
+> >> perform common tasks.
+> >>
+> >> Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome
+> >> Center. What is this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user
+> >> will do his first login - or when a new user is created and will
+> >> do your first login, after loading the desktop environment, a
+> >> window like the one I drew below will appear:
+> >>
+> >> http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png
+I'm pretty ok, good idea!
+
+-- 
+Sandro Cazzaniga
+Bashburn hacker (http://bashburn.dose.se/)
+Mageia Contributor (http://www.mageia.org/fr/)
+Serial Blogger (http://twitter.com/Kharec)
+Developer (Perl, Bash, C)
+Vice President, secretary and member of CA of Alolise
+(http://www.alolise.org)
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 13:23:27 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
+>    The welcome "center" could well be the Mageia welcome page, in the same 
+> sense that the Mandriva welcome page had appeared. It could have your 
+> suggested layout, and a "help" tab/pane/button that would go to the welcome 
+> text + have links to help documentation.
+
+
+
+This idea was perfect! Easier to do, easier to maintain and easier to update!
+Too, we can put more links like: "Go to my personal files", "Syncronize my
+mobile devices" and "Update this system". And we can use a Browser window to do
+it, without binaries!
+
+Cheer,
+
+André Machado
+
+
+
+
+ + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] So?

+ Gustavo Giampaoli + giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 13:40:31 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
> i know you mean well, but would you please (pretty please with sugar on top),
+> calm the f*** down.
+
+I am VERY "f***ing" calm. If I was some kind of crybaby, maybe I
+should feel disrespect because you wrote "f***"?
+
+I'm sorry if you (or anyone else) are misunderstanding my words.
+However, I affirm what I've said in the mail before.
+
+I can write some other thoughts that I have. But I'm afraid that there
+could be some real crybaby around and could feel offended. (just in
+case, I'm not calling you "crybaby", but if you feel so it's not in my
+hands).
+
+Besides, IMHO these MLs are not for this kind of discussions.
+
+So, I made my point in the mail before. For me, period.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+
+Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Robert Xu + robxu9 at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 14:13:34 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/29 André Machado <afmachado at dcemail.com>:
+>
+>>    The welcome "center" could well be the Mageia welcome page, in the same
+>> sense that the Mandriva welcome page had appeared. It could have your
+>> suggested layout, and a "help" tab/pane/button that would go to the welcome
+>> text + have links to help documentation.
+>
+>
+>
+> This idea was perfect! Easier to do, easier to maintain and easier to update!
+> Too, we can put more links like: "Go to my personal files", "Syncronize my
+> mobile devices" and "Update this system". And we can use a Browser window to do
+> it, without binaries!
+>
+
+This is something like Linux Mint does... Maybe you could implement
+something similar to theirs?
+
+(and +1 to the idea in general)
+
+
+-- 
+later, Robert Xu
+
+ + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] So?

+ Robert Xu + robxu9 at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 14:19:49 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 07:40, Gustavo Giampaoli
+<giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com> wrote:
+>> i know you mean well, but would you please (pretty please with sugar on top),
+>> calm the f*** down.
+>
+> I am VERY "f***ing" calm. If I was some kind of crybaby, maybe I
+> should feel disrespect because you wrote "f***"?
+>
+> I'm sorry if you (or anyone else) are misunderstanding my words.
+> However, I affirm what I've said in the mail before.
+>
+> I can write some other thoughts that I have. But I'm afraid that there
+> could be some real crybaby around and could feel offended. (just in
+> case, I'm not calling you "crybaby", but if you feel so it's not in my
+> hands).
+>
+> Besides, IMHO these MLs are not for this kind of discussions.
+>
+> So, I made my point in the mail before. For me, period.
+
+Let's keep on topic, yes?
+
+A good idea would be to keep a wiki page listing all the aspects of
+Mageia we want...
+like, "We want RPM, we want plain-text mails only, we want a cool logo", etc...
+
+If you do that, people can go there for reference, and if we agree on
+stuff, you can change that page.
+
+Besides, it's temporary, and you will probably be able to split it up
+into sections later.
+
+But let's just keep a disambiguation page of jumbled stuff first.
+
+
+-- 
+later, Robert Xu
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-dev] So?

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 14:33:46 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/29 Robert Xu <robxu9 at gmail.com>:
+>
+> A good idea would be to keep a wiki page listing all the aspects of
+> Mageia we want...
+> like, "We want RPM, we want plain-text mails only, we want a cool logo", etc...
+>
+> If you do that, people can go there for reference, and if we agree on
+> stuff, you can change that page.
+
+Hmm, how would that be different to the discussion we have here? Do
+you think in the wiki people would be less responsive and/or numerous
+with their opinions, ideas, discussions than on this list?
+
+Here we have "We want RPM" in the first mail, then "Think about deb"
+in the secons mail, in the third mail someone talks about a tool, in
+the 4th mail there is a reply to the first mail, etc. It's chaotic,
+yes, but do you think a wiki page with the same unavoidable contents
+would look better?
+
+I don't think so. I am a forum guy and I like wikis but for
+discussions like this a mailing list is better suited.
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] So?

+ Oliver Burger + oliver.bgr at googlemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 14:32:14 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Robert Xu <robxu9 at gmail.com> schrieb am 2010-09-29
+> Let's keep on topic, yes?
+This thread has no real topic, has it?
+
+> A good idea would be to keep a wiki page listing all the aspects of
+> Mageia we want...
+> like, "We want RPM
+There are technical reasons for some things, in the rpm vs. deb threads it has 
+been answered a few times. There are not really any technical reasons to 
+change from rpm to deb and it would produce so much work, we could giv it up 
+before we start. Kepping the point asside that there are quite a few 
+contributors who know quite well how to build rpms but have not the least idea 
+about deb. This has been discussed and has been answered by those people who 
+have to do the work.
+
+> , we want plain-text mails only
+This is the usual way in every mailing list I know, and it has a reason. html 
+mails make things like quoting parts of them a mess and it produces much 
+overhead. html mails are one of the biggest mistake in the history of the 
+internet
+
+> , we want a cool logo",
+we do, but first the marketing people have to design an overall ci, then the 
+logo can be created. We are not a weekend hobby by some amateur, we are a 
+worldwide community that wants to build the best distro ever.
+
+Oliver
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] So?

+ Gustavo Giampaoli + giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 14:54:32 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
> A good idea would be to keep a wiki page listing all the aspects of
+> Mageia we want...
+> like, "We want RPM, we want plain-text mails only, we want a cool logo", etc...
+
+IMHO that people is going too far in this moment. I mean, far in the future.
+
+Think that we have almost nothing yet. Not even the most important and
+basic elements to build the distro. So, people is asking to add
+features to a distro that can't be built yet.
+
+With time, Mageia will have all it's needed (build system, bug
+tracking, web server, etc etc.). And, of course, some place to drop
+ideas. Maybe something like "ideas.mandriva.com" or Mandriva's
+bugzilla. Who knows.
+
+Don't feel disappointed. Please, keep your ideas in mind. Be patient
+and wait for the right moment to drop it in the right place.
+
+IMHO that wiki is to "slow". IRC is too "real time". MLs are the right
+mix between both. With MLs you have enough time to think and write
+your idea very clear. And is fast enough to have lot of answers in a
+few minutes.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+
+Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] "Provisional" Netiquette for ML and Code of Conduct

+ Gustavo Giampaoli + giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 15:23:28 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Founders of Mageia project are working hard in many "fields". One of
+those fields is to write founding documents.
+
+IMHO that we could/should provisionally rely on these:
+
+* Etiquette for mailing lists:
+http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Docs/Support/Mailinglists/Etiquette
+
+* Code of conduct: http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/Code_of_Conduct
+
+And I said "provisionally" because I guess we'll have our own rules.
+But I don't think that courtesy and respect will be absent in our
+rules. In fact, I think "our rules" will be pretty much the same as
+the links I posted.
+
+For those who don't know these documentos, please, take a few minutes
+and read them.
+
+I'm sending this mail to mageia-dev / mageia-discuss / mageia-i18n
+lists. But as separate e-mails.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+
+Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] So?

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 15:25:53 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli <giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com>:
+>
+> IMHO that wiki is to "slow". IRC is too "real time". MLs are the right
+> mix between both. With MLs you have enough time to think and write
+> your idea very clear. And is fast enough to have lot of answers in a
+> few minutes.
+
+May I emphasize your point about IRC:
+IRC has one major drawback. All information, ideas, opinions given on
+IRC are only available to those people who are present in the moment
+when such ideas, opinions and informations are given/discussed. All
+other people (the vast majority) is not present, even dedicated IRC
+users are not online 24/7.
+
+So IMHO important issues should never be discussed on IRC, less
+somebody posts related excerpts on the mailing list related to the
+issue.
+
+IRC is good for short question/answer communication to solve a problem
+at hand, IRC is good for scheduled meetings of not too large groups
+(8-10 participants to the max to be productive). But it is not suited
+for overall discussions you may want to refer to a couple of days
+later.
+
+wobo
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer

+ Maât + maat-ml at vilarem.net +
+ Wed Sep 29 15:34:38 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
If you run fast enough to http://donate.mageia.com you'll see something
+amusing...
+
+...the last donator made a humoristic donation that raised the amount to
+show three times the Ultimate Answer to the Ultimate Question of Life,
+The Universe, and Everything :)
+
+Fun enough to notice :)
+
+Cheers,
+Maât
+
+(Hope this will bring good luck to Mageia)
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer

+ Michael Scherer + misc at zarb.org +
+ Wed Sep 29 15:36:34 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 15:34 +0200, Maât a écrit :
+> If you run fast enough to http://donate.mageia.com you'll see something
+> amusing...
+
+fast enough and with the crrect url of http://donate.mageia.org/
+
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer

+ Tux99 + tux99-mga at uridium.org +
+ Wed Sep 29 15:36:50 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010, [UTF-8] Maât wrote:
+
+> If you run fast enough to http://donate.mageia.com you'll see something
+amusing...
+
+mageia.org !!!
+
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] So?

+ Michael Scherer + misc at zarb.org +
+ Wed Sep 29 15:39:43 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 15:25 +0200, Wolfgang Bornath a écrit :
+> 2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli <giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com>:
+> >
+> > IMHO that wiki is to "slow". IRC is too "real time". MLs are the right
+> > mix between both. With MLs you have enough time to think and write
+> > your idea very clear. And is fast enough to have lot of answers in a
+> > few minutes.
+> 
+> May I emphasize your point about IRC:
+> IRC has one major drawback. All information, ideas, opinions given on
+> IRC are only available to those people who are present in the moment
+> when such ideas, opinions and informations are given/discussed. All
+> other people (the vast majority) is not present, even dedicated IRC
+> users are not online 24/7.
+> 
+> So IMHO important issues should never be discussed on IRC, less
+> somebody posts related excerpts on the mailing list related to the
+> issue.
+> 
+> IRC is good for short question/answer communication to solve a problem
+> at hand, IRC is good for scheduled meetings of not too large groups
+> (8-10 participants to the max to be productive). But it is not suited
+> for overall discussions you may want to refer to a couple of days
+> later.
+
+I was planning on adding a bot that log conversation, like we do on
+#mandrivafr ( with nice stats too ). I have also set up a meetbot
+instance for meetings. 
+
+But I agree that for better accountability, we should have big
+discussion on ml. 
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] Mageia IS definetely the answer

+ Maât + maat-ml at vilarem.net +
+ Wed Sep 29 15:39:51 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Le 29/09/2010 15:36, Michael Scherer a écrit :
+> Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 à 15:34 +0200, Maât a écrit :
+>   
+>> If you run fast enough to http://donate.mageia.com you'll see something
+>> amusing...
+>>     
+> fast enough and with the crrect url of http://donate.mageia.org/
+>
+>   
+Ooop's
+
+s/mageia\.com/mageia.org/
+
+sorry sorry sorry...
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Juan Luis Baptiste + juan.baptiste at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 17:53:14 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:12 AM, atilla ontas <tarakbumba at gmail.com> wrote:
+>
+> I suggest to look at Pardus Linux's Kaptan tool. It shows up to assist
+> desktop/system configuration to new user. Such as from network setup
+> to icon theme. Tough it is only KDE app.
+
+Wow, this kaptan app looks really really nice, if someone wants to
+take a look at some screenshots of it (and Pardus in general) see this
+link:
+
+http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/pardus.html
+
+Also the installer looks pretty nice too.
+
+-- 
+Juancho
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Marek Laane + bald at smail.ee +
+ Wed Sep 29 18:03:52 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/29 Juan Luis Baptiste <juan.baptiste at gmail.com>
+
+> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:12 AM, atilla ontas <tarakbumba at gmail.com>
+> wrote:
+> >
+> > I suggest to look at Pardus Linux's Kaptan tool. It shows up to assist
+> > desktop/system configuration to new user. Such as from network setup
+> > to icon theme. Tough it is only KDE app.
+>
+> Wow, this kaptan app looks really really nice, if someone wants to
+> take a look at some screenshots of it (and Pardus in general) see this
+> link:
+>
+> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/pardus.html
+>
+> Also the installer looks pretty nice too.
+>
+>
+I remember something like Kaptan was used in KDE many-many years ago (KDE2
+probably?)
+
+
+> --
+> Juancho
+> _______________________________________________
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Thomas Lottmann + skipercooker at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 18:24:39 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
I guess the Welcome Center could also be a place to offer two other 
+links/tools :
+
+- A button to link directly to the community page, introducing the 
+forums and all the other community services.
+- Display on the welcome screen basic hardware information : Processor, 
+RAM, video card and the driver currently activated.
+- A link to sysinfo:// that offers some hardware information that could 
+fit inside the welcome center as it is a simple HTML layout. On that 
+page, there can be a link directly to Harddrake to get even more 
+information. Getting system information easily is actually a thing many 
+distros miss, apparently.
+
+But there should be a warning light on such a welcome center : beware 
+the windows-like thing. We really need to think about a new and useful 
+design.
+
+ + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Juan Luis Baptiste + juan.baptiste at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 18:34:28 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:24 AM, Thomas Lottmann
+<skipercooker at gmail.com> wrote:
+> - A link to sysinfo:// that offers some hardware information that could fit
+> inside the welcome center as it is a simple HTML layout. On that page, there
+> can be a link directly to Harddrake to get even more information. Getting
+> system information easily is actually a thing many distros miss, apparently.
+>
+
+Maybe that isn't too much info por a tool that is for new users ? IMO
+it would be better just a link to the hardware tool, harddrake in our
+case.
+
+> But there should be a warning light on such a welcome center : beware the
+> windows-like thing. We really need to think about a new and useful design.
+
+Indeed, I like kaptan design though.
+
+
+-- 
+Juancho
+
+ + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

+ André Salaün + andresalaun at aliceadsl.fr +
+ Wed Sep 29 18:42:48 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ?
+
+http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00000.html
+http://www.documentfoundation.org/
+-- 
+A.Salaün
+
+
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

+ Adrian Marcinkowski + amfidiusz at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 18:48:55 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
W dniu 2010-09-29 18:42, André Salaün pisze:
+> OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ?
+
+I would stick with OpenOffice. The faster cycle is not possible without 
+money coming from Oracle. Currently, most of the work is done by its 
+employees anyway. We should also remember that some part of Oracle's 
+code remains closed. So although they are supported by such companies as 
+Canonical, Red Hat or Google, they will not last long.
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Gustavo Giampaoli + giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 18:50:39 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Maybe firts, you should decide what would the Welcome Center do.
+
+I mean, Kaptan is a configuration tool.
+
+Display links is more a kind of "information" page.
+
+So, the Welcome Center should be an info page, or a full featured tool
+that can set most common things for newbies?
+
+Personally, I like the Kaptan idea. Don't know if it's possible to
+port it to Mageia from developers' POV.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+
+Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+
+ + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

+ Adjamilton Medeiros de Almeida Júnior + ajunior at brasifort.com.br +
+ Wed Sep 29 18:51:10 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
IMHO,
+
+LibreOffice!
+
+Adjamilton Júnior
+
+
+2010/9/29 André Salaün <andresalaun at aliceadsl.fr>
+
+> OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ?
+>
+> http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00000.html
+> http://www.documentfoundation.org/
+> --
+> A.Salaün
+>
+>
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Juan Luis Baptiste + juan.baptiste at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 19:03:56 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 11:50 AM, Gustavo Giampaoli
+<giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com> wrote:
+>
+> Personally, I like the Kaptan idea. Don't know if it's possible to
+> port it to Mageia from developers' POV.
+>
+
+Me too, I'm downoading the iso right now to take a look at it.
+
+
+-- 
+Juancho
+
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ atilla ontas + tarakbumba at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 19:38:22 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/29 Marek Laane <bald at smail.ee>:
+>
+>
+> 2010/9/29 Juan Luis Baptiste <juan.baptiste at gmail.com>
+>>
+>> On Wed, Sep 29, 2010 at 5:12 AM, atilla ontas <tarakbumba at gmail.com>
+>> wrote:
+>> >
+>> > I suggest to look at Pardus Linux's Kaptan tool. It shows up to assist
+>> > desktop/system configuration to new user. Such as from network setup
+>> > to icon theme. Tough it is only KDE app.
+>>
+>> Wow, this kaptan app looks really really nice, if someone wants to
+>> take a look at some screenshots of it (and Pardus in general) see this
+>> link:
+>>
+>> http://www.dedoimedo.com/computers/pardus.html
+>>
+>> Also the installer looks pretty nice too.
+>>
+>
+> I remember something like Kaptan was used in KDE many-many years ago (KDE2
+> probably?)
+>
+>>
+>> --
+>> Juancho
+>> _______________________________________________
+>> Mageia-dev mailing list
+>> Mageia-dev at mageia.org
+>> https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+>
+>
+> _______________________________________________
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+> Mageia-dev at mageia.org
+> https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+>
+
+May be there was a Kaptan like app before. But Kaptan written from
+stratch for Pardus, not fork of another app.
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 19:50:18 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli <giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com>:
+>
+> I mean, Kaptan is a configuration tool.
+>
+> Display links is more a kind of "information" page.
+>
+> So, the Welcome Center should be an info page, or a full featured tool
+> that can set most common things for newbies?
+
+I'd put more weight on the information part.
+
+It should guide the user to all relevant places for up-to-date
+information about Mageia, to help pages (the wiki), to discussion and
+support places like the forums, etc., preferrably in the language he
+sets when installing the system.
+
+Then you can add internal links to the control center, to
+softwaremanagement, to hardware information.
+
+Reason: After installation what he needs first in case of problems is
+addresses he can turn to to get help. Other places are easily found in
+the start menue (a section "Top Apps / Tools" would help there) but
+there are no links to helping people in the menue.
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

+ Dubeau, Patrick + Patrick.Dubeau at ccq.org +
+ Wed Sep 29 19:33:44 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
> bounces at mageia.org] De la part de Gustavo Giampaoli
+> Envoyé : 29 septembre 2010 12:51
+> À : Mageia development mailing-list
+> Objet : Re: [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia
+> WelcomeCenter?
+> 
+> Maybe firts, you should decide what would the Welcome Center do.
+> 
+> I mean, Kaptan is a configuration tool.
+> 
+> Display links is more a kind of "information" page.
+> 
+> So, the Welcome Center should be an info page, or a full featured tool
+> that can set most common things for newbies?
+> 
+> Personally, I like the Kaptan idea. Don't know if it's possible to
+> port it to Mageia from developers' POV.
+> 
+> Cheers!
+
+I'd say that Gustavo is right on this one. What do we really want : a
+setup/configuration tool to help newbies or a welcome page to help newbies
+recognized what the different apps in linux are for?
+
+
+Patrick Dubeau (alias DaaX) - Webmaster MLO
+http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org 
+
+
+
+ + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Ahmad Samir + ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 19:58:25 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
On 29 September 2010 19:50, Gustavo Giampaoli
+<giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com> wrote:
+> Maybe firts, you should decide what would the Welcome Center do.
+>
+> I mean, Kaptan is a configuration tool.
+>
+> Display links is more a kind of "information" page.
+>
+> So, the Welcome Center should be an info page, or a full featured tool
+> that can set most common things for newbies?
+>
+> Personally, I like the Kaptan idea. Don't know if it's possible to
+> port it to Mageia from developers' POV.
+>
+> Cheers!
+>
+>
+>
+> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+
+One question though, kaptan works only with KDE? what about other DE's?
+
+-- 
+Ahmad Samir
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

+ Gustavo Giampaoli + giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 20:09:28 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
I found both aproaches really atractive and useful.
+
+Kaptan looks very intuitive, easy and centralize most (if not all) the
+most common and basic settings that a person with basic knowledge
+could need after the first boot.
+
+However, wobo's aproach is also important. What happends if
+Kaptan-like-tool hangs in the first boot and close? That's where info
+page will be really really useful. This is an extreme example, but I
+think I presents the idea well. A newbie will be almost "naked and
+screaming" without to know where to go for help.
+
+But, if Kaptan-like-tool doesn't hang and works fine, it's always
+important to let people know where they have to go if anything goes
+wrong or where to meet other user. You never know when a user could
+become an important contributor.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+
+Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+
+ + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

+ Thierry Vignaud + thierry.vignaud at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 20:25:17 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
On 29 September 2010 18:48, Adrian Marcinkowski <amfidiusz at gmail.com> wrote:
+> I would stick with OpenOffice. The faster cycle is not possible without
+> money coming from Oracle. Currently, most of the work is done by its
+> employees anyway.
+
+On the other hand many patches from external patches are rotting with
+neither sun nor oracle doing anything regarding this.
+Hence the de facto novel fork that has now been broaded
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

+ Graham Lauder + yorick_ at openoffice.org +
+ Wed Sep 29 19:43:35 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 05:42:48 André Salaün wrote:
+> OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ?
+> 
+> http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00000.html
+> http://www.documentfoundation.org/
+
+Any decision will depend on timing, ie: Where LibreOffice is when a Mageia 
+build is avaialble.
+
+Right now LibreOffice is limited in terms of l10n, that will change.  
+
+It is hoped that Oracle will come on board and contribute as part of the 
+foundation including the ownership of the OpenOffice.org name and branding. 
+The pressure for this change is not new, the OOo community has wanted a 
+foundation from the beginning and SUN, the original owners, had said that was 
+their long term goal.  
+
+There is some uncertainty as to Oracle's future support and that has driven 
+this initiative.
+
+I've been with the OOo community since the beginning and I support this as do 
+a lot of the core active community members and a significant number of the 
+paid devs.  
+
+What I would like to see is the new Distro penning a note of support and at 
+this early moment, (only a symbolic gesture, I know) going with LibreOffice as 
+the default OOo version
+
+Cheers
+GL    
+
+-- 
+Graham Lauder,
+OpenOffice.org MarCon (Marketing Contact) NZ
+http://marketing.openoffice.org/contacts.html
+
+OpenOffice.org Migration and training Consultant.
+
+INGOTs Assessor Trainer
+(International Grades in Open Technologies)
+www.theingots.org
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

+ Michael Scherer + misc at zarb.org +
+ Wed Sep 29 20:57:13 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 à 06:43 +1300, Graham Lauder a écrit :
+> On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 05:42:48 André Salaün wrote:
+> > OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ?
+> > 
+> > http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00000.html
+> > http://www.documentfoundation.org/
+> 
+> Any decision will depend on timing, ie: Where LibreOffice is when a Mageia 
+> build is avaialble.
+
+we can have both packages :)
+
+-- 
+Michael Scherer
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

+ Gustavo Giampaoli + giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 21:03:31 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
> we can have both packages :)
+
++1
+
+Of course. It's the most "logical" decision.
+
+But I think Graham means which office suite will be the "default" one
+shipped in the installation media. I like the idea of supporting
+LibreOffice. If anything goes wrong, you always can do an "urpmi
+openoffice". It should be fast if LibreOffice and OpenOffice are,
+right now almost the same thing. Packages for both should be almost
+the same. Am I right?
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+
+Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

+ Ahmad Samir + ahmadsamir3891 at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 21:12:29 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
On 29 September 2010 21:57, Michael Scherer <misc at zarb.org> wrote:
+> Le jeudi 30 septembre 2010 à 06:43 +1300, Graham Lauder a écrit :
+>> On Thursday 30 Sep 2010 05:42:48 André Salaün wrote:
+>> > OpenOffice or LibreOffice for Mageia ?
+>> >
+>> > http://www.documentfoundation.org/lists/announce/msg00000.html
+>> > http://www.documentfoundation.org/
+>>
+>> Any decision will depend on timing, ie: Where LibreOffice is when a Mageia
+>> build is avaialble.
+>
+> we can have both packages :)
+>
+> --
+> Michael Scherer
+>
+
+Nooo! unless you want the guy maintaining the go-oo/libreoffice
+packages to commit suicide :)
+
+(Imagine having two bears running loose :)).
+
+-- 
+Ahmad Samir
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

+ Lombard Marianne + marianne at tuxette.fr +
+ Wed Sep 29 21:13:08 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Le 29/09/2010 21:03, Gustavo Giampaoli a écrit :
+>> we can have both packages :)
+> 
+> +1
+> 
+> Of course. It's the most "logical" decision.
+> 
+> But I think Graham means which office suite will be the "default" one
+> shipped in the installation media. I like the idea of supporting
+> LibreOffice. If anything goes wrong, you always can do an "urpmi
+> openoffice". It should be fast if LibreOffice and OpenOffice are,
+> right now almost the same thing. Packages for both should be almost
+> the same. Am I right?
+> 
+> Cheers!
+> 
+> 
+> 
+> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+> _______________________________________________
+> Mageia-dev mailing list
+> Mageia-dev at mageia.org
+> https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+
+LibreOffice is a new-born, even if it's a fork. Can we not just wait a
+few weeks or months ? To see how this child his growing up and if we can
+include it in the distribution and if it must be the default choice for
+office suite.
+
+
+Regards
+
+-- 
+Marianne (Jehane) Lombard
+Mandriva User - Mageia french translation team
+Inside every fat girl, there is a thin girl waiting to get out (and a
+lot of chocolate) - Terry Pratchett
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

+ Gustavo Giampaoli + giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 21:23:20 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli <giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com>:
+>> we can have both packages :)
+>
+> +1
+>
+> Of course. It's the most "logical" decision.
+
+I was wrong. After visit the LibreOffice web
+http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ I've found that English is
+the only language besides this:
+
+"This beta release is not intended for production use! Be advised that
+the current beta might replace your OpenOffice.org installation."
+
+So, I agree with Michael Scherer's words: any decision will depend on
+timing, ie: Where LibreOffice is when a Mageia build is avaialble.
+
+Cheers!
+
+
+Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Olivier Méjean + omejean at yahoo.fr +
+ Wed Sep 29 21:24:57 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Le mercredi 29 septembre 2010 03:03:05, Andre Machado a écrit :
+> We know that many Windows users refuse to migrate to GNU / Linux because of
+>  the differences between these two environments. A critical point is the
+>  difference between the programs used to perform common tasks.
+> 
+> Thinking about it, I had the idea of creating a Mageia Welcome Center. What
+>  is this? Basically, when Mageia is installed and user will do his first
+>  login - or when a new user is created and will do your first login, after
+>  loading the desktop environment, a window like the one I drew below will
+>  appear:
+> 
+> http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png
+> 
+> This is a simple idea: this window will show friendly descriptions to
+>  commom tasks besides icons of programs used to perform them. So the user
+>  will associate the program that needs to use the task that needs doing.
+>  When user clicks icon or text, the associated program will be launched.
+> 
+> Of course, future we can disable the icons of programs that are not
+>  installed or provide a way to add more options.
+> 
+> This certainly is a small and easy-to-do program that can be developed in
+> minutes and hides a great easter egg ;)
+> 
+> PS: I have the original SVG if someone is interested.
+> 
+> _______________________________________________
+> Mageia-dev mailing list
+> Mageia-dev at mageia.org
+> https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+> 
+
+This is a nice idea
+
+Another moment to give information is when installing.  Currently there are 
+several images for promoting Mandriva (they are available on any mirrors, for 
+example here : 
+<ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandriva.com/MandrivaLinux/official/2010.1/i586/install/extra/advertising/> 
+)
+The time during installation could be used to give first informations so these 
+images are to be modified. Another point is there are only in English. I don't 
+know if it's possible to have localised images, i would be nice (but would 
+take several place, around 2,2 MB).
+
+So i think there is also a need to rework these images so i would be a first 
+introduction to Mageia.
+
+
+-- 
+Olivier Méjean
+Président de l'Association des Utilisateurs Francophones de Mandriva Linux
+http://mandrivafr.org
+twitter : obagoom
+identi.ca : goom
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

+ Thomas Lottmann + skipercooker at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 21:32:02 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Le 29/09/2010 21:23, Gustavo Giampaoli a écrit :
+> 2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli<giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com>:
+>>> we can have both packages :)
+>>
+>> +1
+>>
+>> Of course. It's the most "logical" decision.
+>
+> I was wrong. After visit the LibreOffice web
+> http://www.documentfoundation.org/download/ I've found that English is
+> the only language besides this:
+>
+> "This beta release is not intended for production use! Be advised that
+> the current beta might replace your OpenOffice.org installation."
+>
+> So, I agree with Michael Scherer's words: any decision will depend on
+> timing, ie: Where LibreOffice is when a Mageia build is avaialble.
+
+The Mageia build system isn't on service yet anyway so we still have a 
+lot of time to see how this new project will be evolving and to focus on 
+the issues we will face with our 2010.1 base.
+
+Thomas.
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Thomas Lottmann + skipercooker at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 21:41:48 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Le 29/09/2010 21:24, Olivier Méjean a écrit :
+>
+> This is a nice idea
+>
+> Another moment to give information is when installing.  Currently there are
+> several images for promoting Mandriva (they are available on any mirrors, for
+> example here :
+> <ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandriva.com/MandrivaLinux/official/2010.1/i586/install/extra/advertising/>
+> )
+> The time during installation could be used to give first informations so these
+> images are to be modified. Another point is there are only in English. I don't
+> know if it's possible to have localised images, i would be nice (but would
+> take several place, around 2,2 MB).
+>
+> So i think there is also a need to rework these images so i would be a first
+> introduction to Mageia.
+
+Along with the Welcome Center idea, the one consisting in making a sort 
+of presentation or guided tour during the setup process is one I like a 
+lot.
+
+If you look back in Mandrake's history, this was in fact used by the 
+past. Look this setup capture of Mandrake 9.1 Bamboo : 
+http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f/f5/Mandrake91setup.png
+
+
+Basically, there are two solutions :
+
+- Modify the advertisement images into ones that show the different 
+components, possibilities and advantages Mageia has to offer. BUT 
+currently, they would only be images and this won't help localization, 
+as people would have to duplicate the images. Easy (I did it for my 
+Moblin LiveCD), but not practical...
+
+- Looking at the Bamboo's DrakX, and believing the core of the DrakX 
+Installation Program has not fundamentally changed, I guess it is 
+possible to restore the ability to place texts on advertisements as you 
+can see on the screenshot. Translators would then just have to edit a 
+.po file to translate these texts in their own language.
+
+I was also thinking that a calm music (that can be turned off) during 
+the setup process would be nice to welcome the users who install the 
+system in graphical mode (offering a visible text mode install is 
+perhaps also needed, considering that I had many people asking me for 
+this).
+
+Without modifying the code itself too much, we would be able to revamp 
+the appearance of our good old DrakX as well. :)
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

+ Dubeau, Patrick + Patrick.Dubeau at ccq.org +
+ Wed Sep 29 21:47:29 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
> This is a nice idea
+> 
+> Another moment to give information is when installing.  Currently there
+> are
+> several images for promoting Mandriva (they are available on any
+> mirrors, for
+> example here :
+> <ftp://ftp.free.fr/mirrors/ftp.mandriva.com/MandrivaLinux/official/2010
+> .1/i586/install/extra/advertising/>
+> )
+> The time during installation could be used to give first informations
+> so these
+> images are to be modified. Another point is there are only in English.
+> I don't
+> know if it's possible to have localised images, i would be nice (but
+> would
+> take several place, around 2,2 MB).
+> 
+> So i think there is also a need to rework these images so i would be a
+> first
+> introduction to Mageia.
+> 
+> 
+
+Hi Olivier,
+
+The idea here is not only to give general information during installation but
+to create a welcome screen that'll help newbies get around a linux distro :
+what are the major softs to use to cruise de net, create text document,
+listen to music, configure PC, desktop and such.
+
+
+Patrick Dubeau (alias DaaX) - Webmaster MLO
+http://www.mandrivalinux-online.org 
+
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 21:59:09 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Hey guys,
+
+I've read almost all topics of this thread, gathered some ideas and created a
+non-functional HTML prototype of Mageia Welcome Center.
+
+I would like you to do download it at
+
+http://www.sendspace.com/file/n29kae
+
+and read the README file and get their views for me here.
+
+Let's start doing something. I believe that this task is easy. Let's complete
+tasks what I wrote in README and see where it will lead us.
+
+Of course, this tool is intended for novice users, the experts will disable it
+so that come the first time.
+
+Reguards,
+
+André
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ alktodostemen alko + alktodostemen at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 22:06:25 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Es al estilo de la pantalla de bienvenida de jolicloud, es una idea muy
+acertada, buen trabajo ;)
+It is the style of the splash screen Jolicloud is a very wise idea, good job;)
+
+2010/9/29 André Machado <afmachado at dcemail.com>
+
+> Hey guys,
+>
+> I've read almost all topics of this thread, gathered some ideas and created
+> a
+> non-functional HTML prototype of Mageia Welcome Center.
+>
+> I would like you to do download it at
+>
+> http://www.sendspace.com/file/n29kae
+>
+> and read the README file and get their views for me here.
+>
+> Let's start doing something. I believe that this task is easy. Let's
+> complete
+> tasks what I wrote in README and see where it will lead us.
+>
+> Of course, this tool is intended for novice users, the experts will disable
+> it
+> so that come the first time.
+>
+> Reguards,
+>
+> André
+>
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+ alktodostemen alko + alktodostemen at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 22:07:03 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Soy usuario de Gmail y he pensado que quizás te gustaría probarlo. Te envío
+una invitación para que crees tu propia cuenta.
+
+
+  ¡Has recibido una invitación para usar Gmail!
+
+alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.
+
+Gmail es el servicio de correo electrónico gratuito de Google, diseñado para
+ser intuitivo, eficaz y divertido. Características de Gmail:
+
+ *Menos spam*
+Evita que lleguen a "Recibidos" mensajes no deseados gracias a la tecnología
+innovadora de Google.
+
+*Mucho espacio*
+Suficiente capacidad de almacenamiento para que nunca tengas que eliminar
+más mensajes.
+
+*Chat incorporado*
+Chatea a través de texto o vídeo con alktodostemen alko y con otros amigos
+en tiempo real.
+
+*Acceso móvil*
+Utiliza el correo electrónico en cualquier lugar con Gmail en tu teléfono
+móvil.
+
+Incluso puedes importar tus contactos y correo electrónico de Yahoo!,
+Hotmail, AOL o cualquier otro servicio de correo web o cuenta POP.
+
+Cuando crees tu cuenta, se notificará a alktodostemen alko tu nueva
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+información<http://mail.google.com/mail/help/intl/es/about.html>o
+empieza
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 22:08:48 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
+> - Display on the welcome screen basic hardware information : Processor, 
+> RAM, video card and the driver currently activated.
+
+Can this be done using HTML pages or need some extra tool?
+
+> - A link to sysinfo:// that offers some hardware information that could 
+> fit inside the welcome center as it is a simple HTML layout. On that 
+> page, there can be a link directly to Harddrake to get even more 
+> information. Getting system information easily is actually a thing many 
+> distros miss, apparently.
+
+Is this sysinfo:// default or is implemented by any special tool?
+
+> But there should be a warning light on such a welcome center : beware 
+> the windows-like thing. We really need to think about a new and useful 
+> design.
+
+Indeed. I guess that Windows Vista/7 has a simmilar tool called Wellcome Center.
+So, we need think on a better name to avoid lawsuits...
+
+
+
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] Mageia, alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.

+ Robert Xu + robxu9 at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 22:09:15 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/29 alktodostemen alko <alktodostemen at gmail.com>
+>
+> Soy usuario de Gmail y he pensado que quizás te gustaría probarlo. Te envío una invitación para que crees tu propia cuenta.
+>
+> ¡Has recibido una invitación para usar Gmail!
+>
+> alktodostemen alko te ha invitado a abrir una cuenta de Gmail.
+>
+> Gmail es el servicio de correo electrónico gratuito de Google, diseñado para ser intuitivo, eficaz y divertido. Características de Gmail:
+>
+> Menos spam
+> Evita que lleguen a "Recibidos" mensajes no deseados gracias a la tecnología innovadora de Google.
+>
+> Mucho espacio
+> Suficiente capacidad de almacenamiento para que nunca tengas que eliminar más mensajes.
+>
+> Chat incorporado
+> Chatea a través de texto o vídeo con alktodostemen alko y con otros amigos en tiempo real.
+>
+> Acceso móvil
+> Utiliza el correo electrónico en cualquier lugar con Gmail en tu teléfono móvil.
+>
+> Incluso puedes importar tus contactos y correo electrónico de Yahoo!, Hotmail, AOL o cualquier otro servicio de correo web o cuenta POP.
+>
+> Cuando crees tu cuenta, se notificará a alktodostemen alko tu nueva dirección de Gmail para que podáis seguir en contacto. Obtén más información o empieza a utilizar el servicio.
+>
+> Registrarse
+> Google Inc. | 1600 Ampitheatre Parkway | Mountain View, California 94043
+
+Please don't do this. Thanks.
+
+
+--
+later, Robert Xu
+
+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + +
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 22:17:58 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
+> I'd say that Gustavo is right on this one. What do we really want : a
+> setup/configuration tool to help newbies or a welcome page to help newbies
+> recognized what the different apps in linux are for?
+
+Maybe both: we can start showing a page with information and put it an "Advanced
+options" button what leads to other page with setup/configuration tools.
+
+But: place setup/configurations tools in Mageia Welcome Center won't does not
+become redundant MCC? Or maybe Mageia Welcome center should be a part of MCC?
+
+
+
+
+
+ + + + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

+ atilla ontas + tarakbumba at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 22:20:29 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli <giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com>:
+> I found both aproaches really atractive and useful.
+>
+> Kaptan looks very intuitive, easy and centralize most (if not all) the
+> most common and basic settings that a person with basic knowledge
+> could need after the first boot.
+>
+> However, wobo's aproach is also important. What happends if
+> Kaptan-like-tool hangs in the first boot and close? That's where info
+> page will be really really useful. This is an extreme example, but I
+> think I presents the idea well. A newbie will be almost "naked and
+> screaming" without to know where to go for help.
+>
+> But, if Kaptan-like-tool doesn't hang and works fine, it's always
+> important to let people know where they have to go if anything goes
+> wrong or where to meet other user. You never know when a user could
+> become an important contributor.
+>
+> Cheers!
+>
+>
+>
+> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+> _______________________________________________
+> Mageia-dev mailing list
+> Mageia-dev at mageia.org
+> https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+>
+
+Main problem with Kaptan is that being a KDE tool. Otherwise, freezing
+on first boot should not a problem. We can set a default configuration
+for this purpose and user changes this configuration according to
+his/her taste via Kaptan. So if it s***ks on first screen then nothing
+to worry about. Also, an information page can be implemented as a
+first tab to Kaptan like i see in mockups in this thread. I' m not a
+programmer but i think implementing those should be easy. Main problem
+is like i said, porting Kaptan to GTK code.
+
+ + +
+

+ +
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

+ atilla ontas + tarakbumba at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 22:24:00 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/29 André Machado <afmachado at dcemail.com>:
+>
+>> I'd say that Gustavo is right on this one. What do we really want : a
+>> setup/configuration tool to help newbies or a welcome page to help newbies
+>> recognized what the different apps in linux are for?
+>
+> Maybe both: we can start showing a page with information and put it an "Advanced
+> options" button what leads to other page with setup/configuration tools.
+>
+> But: place setup/configurations tools in Mageia Welcome Center won't does not
+> become redundant MCC? Or maybe Mageia Welcome center should be a part of MCC?
+>
+>
+>
+>
+> _______________________________________________
+> Mageia-dev mailing list
+> Mageia-dev at mageia.org
+> https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+>
+
+Welcome Center or Kaptan should more desktop/application assistance
+tool and not replace MCC. This tool should be limited to network
+connection and screen resolution configuration on system level. But
+should i.e. change theme, icons, default web browser setting etc.
+
+ + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 22:27:20 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
+> 
+> Hi Olivier,
+> 
+> The idea here is not only to give general information during installation but
+> to create a welcome screen that'll help newbies get around a linux distro :
+> what are the major softs to use to cruise de net, create text document,
+> listen to music, configure PC, desktop and such.
+
+Put this kind of information during installation is perfect; So, that use what
+is having your first contact with GNU/Linux through Mageia won't be lost after
+system is running. Both ideas are good. Few distros have something like a
+Welcome Center.
+
+
+
+ + + + + + + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia WelcomeCenter?

+ atilla ontas + tarakbumba at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 22:20:29 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/29 Gustavo Giampaoli <giampaoli.gustavo at gmail.com>:
+> I found both aproaches really atractive and useful.
+>
+> Kaptan looks very intuitive, easy and centralize most (if not all) the
+> most common and basic settings that a person with basic knowledge
+> could need after the first boot.
+>
+> However, wobo's aproach is also important. What happends if
+> Kaptan-like-tool hangs in the first boot and close? That's where info
+> page will be really really useful. This is an extreme example, but I
+> think I presents the idea well. A newbie will be almost "naked and
+> screaming" without to know where to go for help.
+>
+> But, if Kaptan-like-tool doesn't hang and works fine, it's always
+> important to let people know where they have to go if anything goes
+> wrong or where to meet other user. You never know when a user could
+> become an important contributor.
+>
+> Cheers!
+>
+>
+>
+> Gustavo Giampaoli (aka tavillo1980)
+> _______________________________________________
+> Mageia-dev mailing list
+> Mageia-dev at mageia.org
+> https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-dev
+>
+
+Main problem with Kaptan is that being a KDE tool. Otherwise, freezing
+on first boot should not a problem. We can set a default configuration
+for this purpose and user changes this configuration according to
+his/her taste via Kaptan. So if it s***ks on first screen then nothing
+to worry about. Also, an information page can be implemented as a
+first tab to Kaptan like i see in mockups in this thread. I' m not a
+programmer but i think implementing those should be easy. Main problem
+is like i said, porting Kaptan to GTK code.
+
+ + + + + + +
+

+ +
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 22:37:09 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
I remembered now that Welcome center will lead to creation of more two pages:
+
+http://welcome.mageia.org -> the online version of Welcome Center, acessible
+from the same with news and links to frequent questions what will be at:
+
+http://kb.mageia.org -> A full knowledge base in the form of questions and
+answers for both basic users and for advanced users, with subjects divided into
+categories and built by the community. Answers for questions as: "How do I
+change my desktop wallpaper?", "How do I change my screen resolution?", "Where
+do the files that I receive in conversations via Pidgin?", "How do I scan a
+image?" et coetera, all in a easy, informal and clear language.
+
+
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Thomas Lottmann + skipercooker at gmail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 22:51:30 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Le 29/09/2010 22:37, André Machado a écrit :
+> I remembered now that Welcome center will lead to creation of more two pages:
+>
+> http://welcome.mageia.org ->  the online version of Welcome Center, acessible
+> from the same with news and links to frequent questions what will be at:
+>
+> http://kb.mageia.org ->  A full knowledge base in the form of questions and
+> answers for both basic users and for advanced users, with subjects divided into
+> categories and built by the community. Answers for questions as: "How do I
+> change my desktop wallpaper?", "How do I change my screen resolution?", "Where
+> do the files that I receive in conversations via Pidgin?", "How do I scan a
+> image?" et coetera, all in a easy, informal and clear language.
+
+For the knowledge base, we will already have a lot of documentation work 
+to do and a huge work to build and improve our web services. Perhaps it 
+would be better to base ourselves on GetSatisfaction.com at first?
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Wolfgang Bornath + molch.b at googlemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 22:53:24 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
2010/9/29 André Machado <afmachado at dcemail.com>:
+> I remembered now that Welcome center will lead to creation of more two pages:
+>
+> http://welcome.mageia.org -> the online version of Welcome Center, acessible
+> from the same with news and links to frequent questions what will be at:
+
+It will lead to the mageia.org news page. The link to FAQ will lead to
+the wiki which will be the structure for the KB.
+
+> http://kb.mageia.org ->
+will lead to the wiki portal for the KB.
+
+No need to have redundances.
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Dick Gevers + dvgevers at xs4all.nl +
+ Wed Sep 29 22:59:14 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Dear Andre!
+
+On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:03:05 +0000 (UTC), Andre Machado wrote about
+[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?:
+
+>http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png
+
+And this is supposed to cover my whole desktop? Please: no.
+
+I don't mean to be disrespectful, but if I started up my computer and saw
+this, I'd think I'd bought a tool for children instead of an adult operated
+personal computer.
+
+/Ducking for flame throwers.
+
+I regret that I do not very much like the idea. But if everyone on this
+list wants it: okay.
+
+Best regards,
+=Dick Gevers=
+
+
+ + + + +
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 23:01:52 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
OK, but we need put a online version of WC. Maybe, instead of put a FAQ list,
+put links to random wiki artcles. As to the knowledge base, I recognize that
+with the wiki, it really is not necessary.
+
+
+ + +
+

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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 23:07:02 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
Dick Gevers <dvgevers at ...> writes:
+
+> 
+> Dear Andre!
+> 
+> On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 01:03:05 +0000 (UTC), Andre Machado wrote about
+> [Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?:
+> 
+> >http://img831.imageshack.us/img831/925/mageiawelcome.png
+> 
+> And this is supposed to cover my whole desktop? Please: no.
+> 
+> I don't mean to be disrespectful, but if I started up my computer and saw
+> this, I'd think I'd bought a tool for children instead of an adult operated
+> personal computer.
+> 
+> /Ducking for flame throwers.
+> 
+> I regret that I do not very much like the idea. But if everyone on this
+> list wants it: okay.
+> 
+> Best regards,
+> =Dick Gevers=
+> 
+
+Dick,
+
+Your views are welcome. I should remember that that you saw is just a draft. I
+did a better version - which is also a draft - here.
+
+http://www.sendspace.com/file/n29kae
+
+The intention is that it's just a window with a lower resolution than 800x600
+that can be easily disabled. The Audience is that users that are having your
+first contacts with GNU/Linux. In others follow-ups of this threads, we are
+having interesting ideas.
+
+
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 23:13:02 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
+> Nooo! unless you want the guy maintaining the go-oo/libreoffice
+> packages to commit suicide :)
+
+There may be a maintainer for each suite, as there may be a regular for the
+Linux kernel and other kernel for Free.
+
+In the latter case, we do a poll;)
+
+
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[Mageia-dev] A new office suite ?

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 23:10:17 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
+> we can have both packages :)
+
+I say more: we SHOULD have both packages :)
+
+And shoud have too OxygenOffice and BROffice, this, the same OpenOffice but the
+Brazilian version, that changed its name due to a legal question with a local
+enterprise what is a ownership to OpenOffice name in this country :( . 
+
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ Dick Gevers + dvgevers at xs4all.nl +
+ Wed Sep 29 23:20:10 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
On Wed, 29 Sep 2010 21:07:02 +0000 (UTC), André Machado wrote about Re:
+[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?:
+
+>The Audience is that users that are having your first contacts with
+>GNU/Linux.
+
+I remembered ages ago a certain Redmond product asking me "What do you want
+to do today?"  I could only think of the answer: "None of your business"
+
+Sorry!
+
+Best regards,
+=Dick Gevers=
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-dev] What do you think about create a Mageia Welcome Center?

+ André Machado + afmachado at dcemail.com +
+ Wed Sep 29 23:38:24 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
guys, I just found out that Linux Mint has something similar to what we want to
+implement, but the difference is that theirs has only links to the websites of
+our community and will have links to the most common tasks that the user will
+perform:
+
+http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh234/cleitoncfl/Captura_de_tela-1.png
+
+even so, that the Mint is very beautiful.
+
+
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[Mageia-dev] So?

+ nicolas vigier + boklm at mars-attacks.org +
+ Wed Sep 29 23:58:52 CEST 2010 +

+
+ +
On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, nicolas vigier wrote:
+
+> On Tue, 28 Sep 2010, Lucien-Henry Horvath wrote:
+> 
+> >
+> > The kind of responses I expected was just :
+> > - Ex-employes are making the governance (oopps, you have responded thanks 
+> > for that ;-) )
+> > - We have in prevision to make a meeting in 1-2 weeks (or 1-2 monthes). Or 
+> > even : They have no prevision at this time ... because in our bases little 
+> > team no decision is realy take in this sens at this time.
+> 
+> I guess many people will be at fosdem, so there will probably be a
+> meeting there, but that's still in a long time. Maybe other meetings
+> before, but not planned yet. The priority is now to setup everything
+> quickly to have the project running.
+
+And if you're going to Open World Forum tomorrow (thursday) in Paris,
+you can also meet some of us there.
+
+
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