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[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team organisation

+ Remco Rijnders + remco at webconquest.com +
+ Tue Aug 16 19:31:13 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Dear all,
+
+One of the more important but often overlooked tasks for projects like 
+Mageia is the handling of bug reports received and follow up given to 
+them. Quick resolution of reported problems and the proper routing of 
+these reports is important to help Mageia improve in quality and grow in 
+mindshare within the larger Linux community.
+
+Since Mageia started over 2400 bugs and other issues needing our attention 
+have been filed in our bugzilla ( http://bugs.mageia.org/ ). A very 
+impressive job has been done so far by the various members of the bugsquad 
+and the packagers and sysadmins who have had reports assigned to them. 
+Most impressive has been the bulk of work that Ahmad did by himself since 
+the bugsquad got started under his leadership. Due to time constraints he 
+unfortunately announced last month that he had to step down from this 
+position. Since that time the bugsquad team has been without a leader and 
+a representative for that team within the Mageia council.
+
+Through this email I hope to solicit some help for and interest in this 
+team (hence the Cc to the Mageia discuss list) as well as to discuss 
+within the team (on the bugsquad mailing list) where we want to go with it 
+and if anyone is willing to take over the lead for this team.
+
+Should you have any interest in the bugsquad team, please see the page on 
+our wiki for information on the triage team and how to join the mailing 
+list. The address for that is 
+http://www.mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=triage
+
+In order to keep the discussion in one place, I'd appreciate it if follow 
+ups to this message solely go to the bugsquad list.
+
+I'm interested in hearing your thoughts.
+
+Thank you for your time and attention, thank you Ahmad for all the hard 
+work done so far!
+
+Sincere regards,
+
+Remco
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[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team organisation

+ Manuel Hiebel + manuel+ml at hiebel.eu +
+ Wed Aug 17 09:41:13 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Le mardi 16 août 2011 à 19:31 +0200, Remco Rijnders a écrit :
+> Dear all,
+>[...]
+> Sincere regards,
+> 
+> Remco
+
+Hi all, and sorry for the wrong reply, I have subscribe to the list just
+this morning.
+
+I have no experience on bug triaging,  I read the ml list and the
+posts of TV or Ahmad and the wiki page. But for a lot of bugs I don't
+know what to do.
+
+If nobody want to do that, I can take this job.
+
+But my English is very bad :/ ( as you can see), and I am not sure to be
+the best person to take that :)
+-- 
+Manuel Hiebel (leuhmanu)
+
+
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[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team organisation

+ Remco Rijnders + remco at webconquest.com +
+ Wed Aug 17 10:39:27 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 09:41:13AM +0200, Manuel Hiebel wrote:
+>Le mardi 16 août 2011 à 19:31 +0200, Remco Rijnders a écrit :
+>> Dear all,
+>>[...]
+>> Sincere regards,
+>>
+>> Remco
+>
+>Hi all, and sorry for the wrong reply, I have subscribe to the list just
+>this morning.
+>
+>I have no experience on bug triaging,  I read the ml list and the
+>posts of TV or Ahmad and the wiki page. But for a lot of bugs I don't
+>know what to do.
+>
+>If nobody want to do that, I can take this job.
+>
+>But my English is very bad :/ ( as you can see), and I am not sure to be
+>the best person to take that :)
+>-- 
+>Manuel Hiebel (leuhmanu)
+
+Hi Manuel,
+
+Nice to hear from you. I noticed that you have stepped up in recent weeks 
+to fill some of the gaps in the triaging of problem reports that came into 
+existance with Ahmad's decision to take a few steps back from the 
+bugsquad.
+
+I am also willing to step up my efforts within this team and become more 
+involved as I feel the bugsquad team is of too great importance to leave 
+lingering unattended.
+
+Your concern on your English language skills is understandable, but I 
+think you can make yourself understood and that is what matters more than 
+scoring perfect on an English writing test. I believe that people who do 
+the work also have a say in it and the representation of the team within 
+the project. Should there be no other volunteers or should you want, I'm 
+also willing to team up with you and perhaps make this more of a joint 
+effort.
+
+As I see it, the triage team isn't doing all that bad but it would be nice 
+if we could have more of a 'team' feeling to it. That is, have people 
+available on the IRC channel as well as make better use of this list. This 
+should help those who want to help out and also can help in case of doubts 
+on the best approach to handle a bug, who to assign it to, and what 
+package to assign it to.
+
+Furthermore, I think it is important for the triage team to have good 
+contacts with the QA team, security team and sysadmins and ideally some 
+overlap between the team members in those teams as well.
+
+Finally, I also think that bug reports should receive a timely follow up 
+and that ideally once the problem is clear is assigned to someone for 
+fixing. Open bug reports should be regulary reviewed to see if they are 
+still current and still apply. Assigned bug reports should be brought to 
+the attention of the assignee for a status update and reminder.
+
+I fear lack of time and to a lesser extend lack of experience in this 
+field is one of the things that have hold me back in becoming more active 
+within the team up till now.
+
+Kind regards,
+
+Remco (Remmy)
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[Mageia-bugsquad] Bugsquad team organisation

+ Remco Rijnders + remco at webconquest.com +
+ Wed Aug 17 10:41:59 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
On Wed, Aug 17, 2011 at 10:39:27AM +0200, Remco Rijnders wrote:
+>
+>Remco (Remmy)
+>with you
+
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[Mageia-bugsquad] proposals to improve the triage

+ Manuel Hiebel + manuel+ml at hiebel.eu +
+ Tue Aug 23 16:33:49 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi all,
+
+Yesterday was the meeting off the concil,
+http://meetbot.mageia.org/mageia-meeting/2011/mageia-meeting.2011-08-22-19.11.html and we have speak about the triage team.
+
+One point is about the things to do to make triage more efficient.
+Indeed, there a big part of the that are assigned to bugsquad.
+
+So I will post tomorrow on mageia-dev to discuss about with packager and
+other people.
+
+The majority of the rpms has not maintenairs.
+For example, to who can we assign installer bug? there is not
+maintenairs for drakx-installer-*
+The same for Gnome bugs, like nautilus. 
+Should we add in CC the packager ? 
+
+Some bug can be easily fixed. Like 'Mandriva Linux' in strings of some
+text file, or other.  For them, Dmorgan created the tag Junior_Job
+(https://bugs.mageia.org/describekeywords.cgi) seems similar to easyfix
+by Redhat.
+For other we need add missing rpm. dkms-syntek as example for no UVC
+Webcam.
+
+What can we do for reduce the number of Bugs ?
+Have a list of people who can help in solving some bugs. Gnome2, Gnome3,
+KDE4, XFCE, Kernel, Web application, Audio, Video card, Firmware, etc.
+
+Maybe we can also create an alias for a group of package ? like
+gnome3-maint AT groups.mageia.org.
+
+If you have other things do add don't hesitate.
+
+(And sorry for my bad English)
+-- 
+Manuel Hiebel (leuhmanu)
+
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-bugsquad] proposals to improve the triage

+ Thierry Vignaud + thierry.vignaud at gmail.com +
+ Tue Aug 23 17:33:07 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
On 23 August 2011 16:33, Manuel Hiebel <manuel+ml at hiebel.eu> wrote:
+> The majority of the rpms has not maintenairs.
+> For example, to who can we assign installer bug? there is not
+> maintenairs for drakx-installer-*
+
+That's not bad.
+Installer is managed by a team (even if recently i was nearly the only
+one to contribute).
+I've a list of installer bugs that I read:
+https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=drakx-install
+https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=installer
+https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=install-text
+https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=install-stage1
+https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=drakx-installer-rescue
+
+> Some bug can be easily fixed. Like 'Mandriva Linux' in strings of some
+> text file, or other.  For them, Dmorgan created the tag Junior_Job
+> (https://bugs.mageia.org/describekeywords.cgi) seems similar to easyfix
+> by Redhat.
+
+Nice!
+Should be more advertized though.
+Maybe sharing a prerefistered search would be nice (like the one I share above)
+
+> What can we do for reduce the number of Bugs ?
+
+Agressivily assign bugs to latest package uploader?
+
+> Maybe we can also create an alias for a group of package ? like
+> gnome3-maint AT groups.mageia.org.
+
+Could be usefull: gnome3-maint, kde-maint, drakx-maint
+
+My 2 cents
+
+ + + +
+

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[Mageia-bugsquad] proposals to improve the triage

+ Manuel Hiebel + manuel+ml at hiebel.eu +
+ Tue Aug 23 17:57:42 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi Thierry, thanks for the reply and great to see you here :)
+
+Le mardi 23 août 2011 à 17:33 +0200, Thierry Vignaud a écrit :
+> On 23 August 2011 16:33, Manuel Hiebel <manuel+ml at hiebel.eu> wrote:
+> > The majority of the rpms has not maintenairs.
+> > For example, to who can we assign installer bug? there is not
+> > maintenairs for drakx-installer-*
+> 
+> That's not bad.
+> Installer is managed by a team (even if recently i was nearly the only
+> one to contribute).
+> I've a list of installer bugs that I read:
+> https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=drakx-install
+> https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=installer
+> https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=install-text
+> https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=install-stage1
+> https://bugs.mageia.org/buglist.cgi?cmdtype=runnamed&namedcmd=drakx-installer-rescue
+
+So if the team is just you in the states of things, ok
+> > Some bug can be easily fixed. Like 'Mandriva Linux' in strings of some
+> > text file, or other.  For them, Dmorgan created the tag Junior_Job
+> > (https://bugs.mageia.org/describekeywords.cgi) seems similar to easyfix
+> > by Redhat.
+> 
+> Nice!
+> Should be more advertized though.
+> Maybe sharing a prerefistered search would be nice (like the one I share above)
+
+done
+> > What can we do for reduce the number of Bugs ?
+> Agressivily assign bugs to latest package uploader?
+I am not sure that all packager (for example: ennael 300rpms or dmorgan
+1000rpm uploaded) can work their rpms's bugs.
+
+> > Maybe we can also create an alias for a group of package ? like
+> > gnome3-maint AT groups.mageia.org.
+> 
+> Could be usefull: gnome3-maint, kde-maint, drakx-maint
+> 
+> My 2 cents
+
+Finally I will send this evening rather mageia-dev, it will be more
+useful there.
+
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-bugsquad] proposals to improve the triage

+ Thierry Vignaud + thierry.vignaud at gmail.com +
+ Tue Aug 23 18:20:25 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
On 23 August 2011 17:57, Manuel Hiebel <manuel+ml at hiebel.eu> wrote:
+>> > What can we do for reduce the number of Bugs ?
+>> Agressivily assign bugs to latest package uploader?
+> I am not sure that all packager (for example: ennael 300rpms or dmorgan
+> 1000rpm uploaded) can work their rpms's bugs.
+
+well we could also:
+- send a mail about the new bugs once a day to mageia-dev
+- and/or send a summary mail about the easy bugs once a day
+
+ + + +
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[Mageia-bugsquad] Blog post about QA and triage

+ Manuel Hiebel + manuel at hiebel.eu +
+ Wed Aug 31 12:05:10 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
Hi, 
+
+We will post an blog post "Why triage and QA are as important as
+packaging" in a few days, if you want help you are welcome.
+
+http://piratepad.net/gN3X1LmNPh
+
+
+
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[Mageia-bugsquad] Blog post about QA and triage

+ Remco Rijnders + remco at webconquest.com +
+ Wed Aug 31 17:04:53 CEST 2011 +

+
+ +
On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 12:05:10PM +0200, Manuel wrote in
+<1314785110.8967.3.camel at vosdook>:
+>Hi,
+>
+>We will post an blog post "Why triage and QA are as important as
+>packaging" in a few days, if you want help you are welcome.
+>
+>http://piratepad.net/gN3X1LmNPh
+
+I gave it a go... feel free to expand and amend as necessary. I think 
+especially the part on QA could use some further fleshing out still.
+
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