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+
This has also been discussed in the forum: https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=203
+
+
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:12 PM, + Thorsten van Lil <tvl83@gmx.de> + wrote:
+
Hey,
+
+ the discussion also take place last week in the mailing + list, but I'd like to
+ do that in an extra thread.
+
+ To summarize the current situation:
+ The current window decoration (Ia Ora), looks old fashioned + and is hard to
+ maintain. It would also require a lot effort to port IaOra + to gtk3 (needed for
+ Gnome3). Therefore we need a new window decorations and + there are the
+ following solutions:
+ 1.) use the default decoration of each desktop environment:
+ * Very easy, no extra work needed
+ * all work is done upstream
+ * no unique look for mageia
+ * different look in kde and gnome
+
+ 2.) create a new decoration for mageia
+ * Unique look for mageia
+ * uniform look in all environments
+ * heavy heavy load for the devs (kde, qt4, gtk2, gtk3)
+
+ 3.) Use other existing window decorations
+ * easy, just a few work needed
+ * the are decorations that exists for all common + environments -> uniform look
+ * relative unique look for mageia
+ * hard to say, what happens if the upstream developer drop + the decoration
+
+ >From the dev-side of view, solution 1 is the best. But + form the artwork-side,
+ I'm not very happy with it. Our KDE would look like Kubuntu, + but with a
+ different startmenu button. Although a lot of people change + the decoration
+ either, it's making a special first impression if it looks + different (and good,
+ hopefully). Thus, I would like, if we can go with solution + 3. But for that, we
+ need more information.
+
+ I need one of you, who will search the web for decorations + that exist in kde,
+ gnome (and qt). And list them somewhere in the wiki. After + that, we can take a
+ closer look, if this a practicable way, or if we better go + with an other
+ solution.
+
+ One extra note: It already has been mentioned, that the + oxygen window
+ decoration (which is the default for KDE) exist also for + GNOME2/3 and Qt
+
+
+
+

+
+ Except some comments like "I don't like it" or "it's old", some + points we should keep in mind
+
+ - ia_ora took ages to be integrated in both KDE and GNOME. Design + part of the game is somewhat the smallest part of the iceberg :). + Technical integration is another story.
+ - having the same theme for both KDE and GNOME is not only a + question of choosing an environment. More and more users are mixing + GTK and Qt apps. Having something uniform was quite a strong point + in Mandriva and it should be a mandatory point
+ - as explained in first point, developping a theme is painfull. If + we have a theme available for bot environment that is a good + starting point. Developpers can always decide not to develop it at + one time. But at least we have something ready to use.
+
+ Cheers
+
+

+
+
+
+
+ Regards,
+ Thorsten
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+ + diff --git a/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20110703/2c364fb0/attachment.html b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20110703/2c364fb0/attachment.html new file mode 100644 index 000000000..da57ced69 --- /dev/null +++ b/zarb-ml/mageia-artwork/attachments/20110703/2c364fb0/attachment.html @@ -0,0 +1,133 @@ + + + + + + + Le 03/07/2011 17:02, Max Quarterpleen a écrit : +

+
This has also been discussed in the forum: https://forums.mageia.org/en/viewtopic.php?f=29&t=203
+
+
On Sun, Jul 3, 2011 at 5:12 PM, + Thorsten van Lil <tvl83@gmx.de> + wrote:
+
Hey,
+
+ the discussion also take place last week in the mailing + list, but I'd like to
+ do that in an extra thread.
+
+ To summarize the current situation:
+ The current window decoration (Ia Ora), looks old fashioned + and is hard to
+ maintain. It would also require a lot effort to port IaOra + to gtk3 (needed for
+ Gnome3). Therefore we need a new window decorations and + there are the
+ following solutions:
+ 1.) use the default decoration of each desktop environment:
+ * Very easy, no extra work needed
+ * all work is done upstream
+ * no unique look for mageia
+ * different look in kde and gnome
+
+ 2.) create a new decoration for mageia
+ * Unique look for mageia
+ * uniform look in all environments
+ * heavy heavy load for the devs (kde, qt4, gtk2, gtk3)
+
+ 3.) Use other existing window decorations
+ * easy, just a few work needed
+ * the are decorations that exists for all common + environments -> uniform look
+ * relative unique look for mageia
+ * hard to say, what happens if the upstream developer drop + the decoration
+
+ >From the dev-side of view, solution 1 is the best. But + form the artwork-side,
+ I'm not very happy with it. Our KDE would look like Kubuntu, + but with a
+ different startmenu button. Although a lot of people change + the decoration
+ either, it's making a special first impression if it looks + different (and good,
+ hopefully). Thus, I would like, if we can go with solution + 3. But for that, we
+ need more information.
+
+ I need one of you, who will search the web for decorations + that exist in kde,
+ gnome (and qt). And list them somewhere in the wiki. After + that, we can take a
+ closer look, if this a practicable way, or if we better go + with an other
+ solution.
+
+ One extra note: It already has been mentioned, that the + oxygen window
+ decoration (which is the default for KDE) exist also for + GNOME2/3 and Qt
+
+
+
+

+
+
+
+
+ Regards,
+ Thorsten
+ _______________________________________________
+ Mageia-artwork mailing list
+ Mageia-artwork@mageia.org
+ https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork
+
+
+
+
+
+
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+Mageia-artwork@mageia.org
+https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-artwork
+
+

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