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+ <B>Romain d'Alverny</B>
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+ TITLE="[Mageia-webteam] Missing link to forums">rda at mageia.org
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+ <I>Tue May 31 11:58:59 CEST 2011</I>
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+<PRE>On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:46, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+&gt;<i> 2011/5/31 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> On Tue, May 31, 2011 at 11:06, Wolfgang Bornath &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">molch.b at googlemail.com</A>&gt; wrote:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> 2011/5/31 Romain d'Alverny &lt;<A HREF="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">rda at mageia.org</A>&gt;:
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Ok, reinstalled these in the nav bar before a wave rises; however,
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> that doesn't make it less messy. Community is much more than just the
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> forum, that's the whole project.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> Romain, I know that, but you spelled it out nicely: &quot;before the wave rises&quot;.
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> What does that mean? It means, that there is a demand, be it messy or
+</I>&gt;&gt;&gt;<i> whatever, we can not argue against the demand of users.
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> Oh yes we can. :-p That's called finding a better solution. It's just
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> that, at this very time, I have in no way the time and energy to
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> handle a (heated or not) discussion about that. :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> No, you can't.
+</I>&gt;<i> Of course you may win any discussion and of course you can ignore
+</I>&gt;<i> everything and just do what you want. And you may also call it any
+</I>&gt;<i> name you want, in the end you have to listen to the user's demands.
+</I>
+There are cases where there's a significant difference between what
+one demands and what one needs. And unless one doesn't challenge this
+difference, there's only incremental progress in sight; at best.
+
+&gt;&gt;<i> Right, then in this very case, it's not the global nav that counts,
+</I>&gt;&gt;<i> but the availability of the link on the very first front page. :-)
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> Well, yes, that would be essential, but having it in global nav would be better.
+</I>
+The global nav (be it with one or two levels - and provided we still
+want one) is to appear on a large set of Web sites: blog, planet,
+forum, www, bugzilla, websvn, identity, ml archives, buildsystem
+dashboard, etc. - and that then, it must keep its relevance as a first
+level nav in all these contexts - and it needs a format/layout that
+works as well; our current layout aims for a concise nav.
+
+That's the point of the design/discussion doc I posted months ago and
+that I got no feedback about.
+
+Romain
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