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There are lots of things that are waiting for people +</I>><i> to join, help and build under mageia.org. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> It's cool and great too to foster local energies in a more dynamic +</I>><i> space (your site), no question about it. But the global mageia.org +</I>><i> effort is in need for joint efforts. So if you feel there is something +</I>><i> missing, even if it may take more time, it's important to take this +</I>><i> time to explain, advocate, and even more importantly, help building +</I>><i> and build what may be missing. +</I>><i> +</I>><i> What is "official" is in mageia.org and is, as much as possible, +</I>><i> global, through all locales hosted on mageia.org (and here we rely +</I>><i> heavily on translators and web developers). It's a permanent work in +</I>><i> progress. We have plans. It takes time. That doesn't prevent from +</I>><i> having local initiatives and efforts, but we can't count this as +</I>><i> official if it's not designed thought in a global scope. +</I> +While I am slightly late, I would also add that we cannot really tell +something is official if we cannot even see how it is managed and how it +work. We cannot judge based on plans, so I would defer the discussion +and in the mean time, clarify some points : + +what it mean to be official ? +( to me, it would be managed by mageia.org association and on a +mageia.org subdomain, but maybe others have different views and +different perspectives than the one of a sysadmin ). + +Does it make sense at all, in fact, what would it bring, what would it +impact ? ( I guess the presence on some list of website to drive traffic +would be the primary motivation, or some other form of exposure ) + +What to do if 2 competing services, on the same country, language, etc +appear ? Do we have to choose one, do we have to give a equal treatment +to both ( which would then cause subtle issues like the non unicity in +various part of the system, like having a potential redirection of +something like it.community.mageia.org to 2 different sites ) ? + +How do we manage the brand and trademark, what if a site decide to +become commercial ( happening with german community at opensuse at the +moment ) ? + +><i> What we can do, though, is, as proposed, provide mageiaitalia.org as +</I>><i> the Italian-speaking forum and local community (for support and such) +</I>><i> - that leaves you the possibility to manage it as such. But that +</I>><i> should not prevent mageia.org/it to be maintained as well, and Italian +</I>><i> contributors to help push the global mageia.org thing further ahead. +</I> +I agree, we should indeed simply list "here is local community", add +some light process ( like "be there since enough time to demonstrate +that it will be sustainable", "be managed by a non-for-profit group, or +by individuals" or anything we see fit ). + +And also add clear instructions of who to contact to be listed on the +page, what to expect, what to prepare, etc. + +And make sure that we from time to time check that the site still exist, +etc. And make clear that we do not manage them. + +-- +Michael Scherer + +</PRE> + + + + + + + + + + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000911.html">[Mageia-webteam] Request of formal approval for mageiaitalia.org +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000920.html">[Mageia-webteam] Request of formal approval for mageiaitalia.org +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#919">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#919">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#919">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#919">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |