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+ <B>Michael Scherer</B>
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+ <I>Mon Jan 17 13:42:10 CET 2011</I>
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+<PRE>Le samedi 15 janvier 2011 &#224; 16:46 +0100, Ma&#226;t a &#233;crit :
+&gt;<i> Le 15/01/2011 16:11, Michael scherer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 11:46:38AM +0100, Ma&#226;t wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Le 13/01/2011 13:29, Michael Scherer a &#233;crit :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; ----8&lt;----
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; In any case, postgresql to mysql conversion doesn't look doable.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; It could be done using things like TOS
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Url ?
+</I>&gt;<i> <A HREF="http://fr.talend.com/products-data-integration/talend-open-studio.php">http://fr.talend.com/products-data-integration/talend-open-studio.php</A>
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; But we are not ready, see my answer about gitorious. So here is a
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; proposal in 4 steps :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; Now :
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; - we do a git checkout every 5 minutes ( just need the url, and
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt;&gt; testing )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; Ouch
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; Why ouch ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 5 minutes is too often, not often enough ?
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; ( this is configurable, as this is based on cron )
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; I would prefer a pull based approach rather than push, because
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 1) this is already written
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; 2) this is more secure
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But it may not be good for deployment.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> ok for pull but human-triggered !
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> in case of a commit pushed by error i don't want production forum follow the move by itself !
+</I>
+We could had a post receive hook that check that any commit comes from
+testing first. Ie, no way to commit to production without pushing to
+testing first.
+
+I would even check that the commit was in testing for at least X days or
+X hours. But this may cause trouble for security fix. On the other hand,
+you don't want to rush a security fix...
+
+&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; But we could perfectly use the last (nightly ,) production backup to populate the test base when i need to go
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;&gt; back to &quot;clean production state&quot;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; This requires use to do backup, and so have at least a backup process
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; But we can also do it. I just think that replication would be less heavy
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; on IO than dump/reload when needed ( and would be easier to automate ).
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> doing backups would be a good idea imho
+</I>
+Yeah, obviously yes. But we either do them on the same server ( and
+that's kinda useless I fear ), or we do this cross servers ( and that's
+kinda complex ).
+
+We could for a start dump pgsql on valstar, and sync svn on alamut.
+
+Or use rabbit, there is 2 To, we could spare some for backups ?
+
+--
+Michael Scherer
+
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