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As an example, have a look at +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.1_Development">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.1_Development</A> and +<A HREF="http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.1_Alpha_1">http://wiki.mandriva.com/en/2010.1_Alpha_1</A> then wonder "where do we publish +it currently?" in a ML ? (please ask if I'm not suficiently precise, yeah I +know that ). +(*) developers can document, marketing could structure it all, artwork team +can work on css, translators may be involved too, collaborative work can +begin with a focus and anyone wanting to get involved, delegation may begin +with simply editing a wiki (easy for anyone imho), this would mean +team-building by effective exchanges available to everyone :) + + +For effective availability, I would see : +- a basic instance available for testing [<A HREF="http://dev.wiki.mageia.org">http://dev.wiki.mageia.org</A>] +- packaging mediawiki (done) and identified plugin (being done) for sysadm +satisfaction, let's make available what we use and build teams around it :-) +(dev, packaging, testing, using with comm and artwork involved) +- involve people in participation around a tool that permits to publish +(with discussion either on wiki or ML), local involvement with translations +or initiatives (let's get people not speaking english to involve :p). +- for production <A HREF="http://wiki.mageia.org">http://wiki.mageia.org</A> in any language, let's choose to go +forward and just deploy it then see how people can use it :-) (requiring +other plugins to be packaged or working through -discuss ML or with +discussion page once created in their own language, that's the purpose of +alpha1 imho to test the infrastructure and create team-building) + +IMHO, a forum will come when needed, but I think that a wiki can enhance +our answers, explaining in 3 lines in a post (on ML currently, on forum +later on) what people can find on the wiki far more detailed :-) + +At the moment, we have +<A HREF="http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=policies-reviewwhich">http://mageia.org/wiki/doku.php?id=policies-reviewwhich</A> lists long +term documentation that should be translated for anyone to +get involved. I'm a bit disappointed that it does not happen on a stabilized +plateform with clear license policy and long term enhancements :/ + +well, I should bring this subject to -discuss but I wanted to have your +feedback before it begins for real :-) so WDYT ? maybe a blog post can +explain how we are going to deploy alpha1 for this sunday ? who is concerned +with iso testing ? who is concerned with wiki testing ? (can we make it with +catdap and missing plugins ?) who can be involved and what tasks should be +done at the moment (packagers, developers, testers, marketing, +communication, mirrors, council, board, translators, triage, sysadm, +artwork, moderators, users and anyone that want to follow what is being +done?) + +I think that an official wiki would get all people to involve, in a long +term participation, WDYT ? +@++ +Ben' aka baud123 +-------------- next part -------------- +An HTML attachment was scrubbed... +URL: </pipermail/mageia-webteam/attachments/20110211/5be8dbb2/attachment.html> +</PRE> + + + +<!--endarticle--> + <HR> + <P><UL> + <!--threads--> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="000217.html">[Mageia-webteam] checklist of web services/issues for alpha 1 +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="000218.html">[Mageia-webteam] checklist of web services/issues for alpha 1 +</A></li> + <LI> <B>Messages sorted by:</B> + <a href="date.html#216">[ date ]</a> + <a href="thread.html#216">[ thread ]</a> + <a href="subject.html#216">[ subject ]</a> + <a href="author.html#216">[ author ]</a> + </LI> + </UL> + +<hr> +<a href="https://www.mageia.org/mailman/listinfo/mageia-webteam">More information about the Mageia-webteam +mailing list</a><br> +</body></html> |