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+ <H1>[Mageia-sysadm] Clearifying questions</H1>
+ <B>Buchan Milne</B>
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+ <I>Tue Sep 18 18:17:17 CEST 2012</I>
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+<PRE>On Tuesday, 18 September 2012 14:46:09 nicolas vigier wrote:
+&gt;<i> On Tue, 18 Sep 2012, Marja van Waes wrote:
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+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; On 17/09/2012 21:30, AL13N wrote:
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; at $dayjob, an intern is developing a virtcenter (under my
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; guidance) (which likely will be released opensource), largely based
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; on php-libvirt.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; the idea is to be able to control multiple libvirtd servers
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; (kvm/xen but i hear vmware should have some kind of libvirtd
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; implementation too, (maybe only in their vcenter))
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; the intern is using this as his work and will show a demo of this
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; around Januari.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &lt;snip&gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; &gt; so, if you can wait that long, it may be suited.
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt;
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; - From jstephan's reply I understand he won't work on this anymore,
+</I>&gt;<i> &gt; because Al13n's intern is expected to come up with a solution in Januari.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>&gt;<i> That doesn't mean we should stop working on this. We don't know if the
+</I>&gt;<i> tool from AL13N will fit our needs. Or maybe there are other tools we
+</I>&gt;<i> can use, or develop our own based or libvirt. We also need something to
+</I>&gt;<i> generate the Mageia VMs with user key installed, maybe using draklive,
+</I>&gt;<i> or using a base image where we add the key.
+</I>&gt;<i>
+</I>
+This is a very common use case, in fact, Amazon Web Services has been doing
+things like this for years, and Openstack does very similar things (for
+distros supported on Openstack).
+
+IMHO we should look at a tool similar to debootstrap/febootstrap that we can
+use for Openstack and/or ovirt.
+
+Maybe drakx-in-chroot/draklive would do, but the Openstack tools should give
+us some means for users to access the functionality, as well as APIs that can
+be called by other automated systems.
+
+Regards,
+Buchan
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