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(long)">boklm at mars-attacks.org + </A><BR> + <I>Wed Nov 9 18:50:34 CET 2011</I> + <P><UL> + <LI>Previous message: <A HREF="004079.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? (long) +</A></li> + <LI>Next message: <A HREF="004080.html">[Mageia-sysadm] possibility to add a package in basesystem-minimal? 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